The Lie Known as "Salvation"

[Haipule]

Whateverist: you know that I love you and I am not alone! But please! God is NOT nature and, nature is NOT God!--never has been and, never will be! Yet, nature reflects God!

As Paul said: "You will know God by the things that He has made!"

I'm glad you're back from Margaritaville, man! We were lost without you.

The issue I take with your quotation of Paul here is that (assuming God exists) his followers seem to ignore Paul's advice--ironically focusing to much on Paul's letters whilst ignoring this little tidbit of wisdom embedded in the letters themselves.

I think Khem hits the nail on the head when he says "magic book worshippers." I've talked to tons of Christians (online and in RL) and, aside from a few exceptions, most of them worship a book and are utterly clueless about how one might know God outside it.

I think it is important too. They have been reinventing Paul words for centuries and also, made him out to be a sexist prick!

The bible, honoring it's autographed language, is just about life and breathing. Man invented religion and religiosities, ideals, idealism. Theology, which should be the science of God, is now the showcase of man's goofy ideas which causes nothing but arguments because they are all insanely stupid and opinionated as you well know. 

Just ask 10 Christians about the how of "salvation" and the fur will fly! Grace, works, both, repentance, prayer, magic words, speaking in tongues, blah, blah, blah, etc, etc, etc, all invented by their Grand Poobah theologians whom actually went to college to be that stupid and repeat the 2,000yrs of "Polly what a cracker?" that they learned in seminary so that they can pass a stupid ordination test given by man which is ok because they are "spiritual" and "Divinely" being directed. I think I'm going to barf!

It is hilariously stupid, and sad, that a lot of what is taught today as "truth", was born from the anti-Semitic "Church Fathers" trying to clobber the Jews and their faith! Now, how freakin' stupid is that?! Just to defend their own faith and torture and murder followed! See how "godly" the are? 8gag8

Jesus said, "The first shall be last and the last, first". I am most certainly NOT apart of that "first" and their 2,000yrs of complete nonsense!

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How about using the "hide" feature on crap like Post #33?

 I would love to--how?