(September 10, 2011 at 12:10 pm)StatCrux Wrote:(September 10, 2011 at 10:36 am)little_monkey Wrote:(September 10, 2011 at 9:01 am)StatCrux Wrote: If I were to meet an atheist who presents as a happy, confident, solvent individual, beautiful family, good friends etc (you get the picture) who went on to tell me the secret of his success in life was to lie, cheat, steal and stab others in the back at every opportunity, take no prisoners and give no quarter, be ruthless with strangers and only protect family and loved ones. How could I tell him that his behavior was "wrong" or "evil" using an atheistic worldview? "The tears of strangers are only water" would be an apt motto for this individual.
All I would say to your "friend" is that one day he will be the victim of someone lying, cheating, stealing and stabbing. That his behavior becomes a model to be emulated by others, and does he want to really live in a world in which everyone else is lying, cheating, stealing and stabbing?
At last an attempt to answer the question. He would simply respond by saying that you're making the assumption that the welfare of others makes any difference to him or his family, he's quite happy living in that kind of world, thats how it is, survival of the fittest, why should he care about the welfare of others, they are merely evolved machines just trying to survive, of no consequence to his well being or his families. Nothing wrong with that is there?
There is a misconception regarding the survival of the fittest. Genetically, we evolved to live in a social network, as opposed for instance to bears who are loners. That means our ancestors saw there were more benefits to live together than if every member went on his/her own. So, that's not an assumption.
Secondly, again through our genetic makeup, we have learned to distinguish from early age those whom we can trust from those we can't. Your "friend" will find very little solace in his drive to make everyone around to hate him. But it's his choice. He will reap the fruits of his actions. IOW, should he be caught for transgressing the laws we all abide to, he could very well end up in jail for life.