RE: Substitutionary Atonement! WTF?
June 10, 2018 at 9:30 pm
(This post was last modified: June 10, 2018 at 10:11 pm by RDK1.)
If the world had been created to be perfect, there would never have been an opportunity to show what forgiveness is. There is no need to show the power of a doctor if no one has ever been sick. If a loving God wants to show us the depths of His love, He would forgive us for all of the things that we would regret if faced with a loving God. The Hell thing has come from a parable that Jesus spoke about sin. If a man was not forgiven, that man would live with the guilt of his evil forever. Jesus would compromise His gift of love to the world if He chose to not love His enemies and send someone away with the gift of eternal life with it spent suffering the whole time. Heaven and Hell are conditions of the heart. Being forgiven gives us a fresh start so that we know God never wanted anyone to suffer at His hand for anything.
If love is not proven, it is meaningless. Love given to good people is easy. Love given to mean people is monumental. We have a world which displays both good and evil. Jesus represented to us a chance to find the author of love. Forgiveness lets God love you anyway.
Men have always taken liberties with their supposed revelations. A single truth could never have degenerated into so much trash unless there were lies ready to be offered up and believed. I can't believe all of the religious trash myself. A kind man was killed trying to heal and do miracles for anyone who wanted them. If a lover goes to His death without having hurt anyone, His innocence represents a sacrifice of His life to show no retaliation against anyone. That's what He did. Don't add a bunch of mysticism to this simple event. He could have cursed us but He didn't.
(June 10, 2018 at 7:46 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:(June 10, 2018 at 2:30 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Can you name one thing that Yeshua supposedly did that makes him worthy of being worshipped?
Created the universe, hows that for starters?
If love is not proven, it is meaningless. Love given to good people is easy. Love given to mean people is monumental. We have a world which displays both good and evil. Jesus represented to us a chance to find the author of love. Forgiveness lets God love you anyway.
(June 10, 2018 at 9:19 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Have any of you taken a look at the Indulgences? Those catholics and their church. Where do they come up with this shit?
https://www.catholic.org/prayers/indulgw.php
Men have always taken liberties with their supposed revelations. A single truth could never have degenerated into so much trash unless there were lies ready to be offered up and believed. I can't believe all of the religious trash myself. A kind man was killed trying to heal and do miracles for anyone who wanted them. If a lover goes to His death without having hurt anyone, His innocence represents a sacrifice of His life to show no retaliation against anyone. That's what He did. Don't add a bunch of mysticism to this simple event. He could have cursed us but He didn't.
