(June 14, 2018 at 10:01 am)Drich Wrote:(June 13, 2018 at 3:24 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: I can't hate something that does not really exist. I can deny the belief that a god is real.
If I/we are playing a role and you believe your second sentence to be correct then you should be grateful that I/we exist and you should stop trying to convert us or tell us that we are wrong. You have now made your presence/posts here a fallacy.
that's a lie.
You can hate something that does not exist.
about 1/2 the country hates trump for being a totalitarian dictator who's racist and sexist policies are bring the country to it's knees...
Now while yes trump is a person (but that is not what is hated) his title as a dictator makes people hate him. when in truth Trump does not exist as a dictator as he is a duly elected president who will either go one for another 4 years at the end of his term or relinquish power at the end of his term depending on how the election goes. Yet trump is so hated for being something he is not, there are murmurings of civil war if he is reelected.
Now i know you want to hide behind logical fallacy here, but in truth the same thing was said about lincoln when the democrats succeeded from the union after his election. again for the same sort of reason. in that lincoln was built up to be a monster or represent a whole party of right crushing monsters and the country divided and fought a civil war because people hated something that did not exist.
That said you may feel you are neutral here, but those who share your religious title are not. just open you eyes to some of what has been said about God and his followers.
Hey, cut the crap Drich. You don't have to pretend like you don't know how is it not to take some deity for granted. Why, you yourself don't believe in Allah and Jinns. You're not angry at Allah and Jinns you just think it's all silly and that's what it's like to atheists with Yahweh and Uriel and Lucifer and Rudolf The Rednose Reindeer.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
