RE: Josephus and other contemporaries on Jesus
July 6, 2018 at 12:51 pm
(This post was last modified: July 6, 2018 at 12:53 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(July 6, 2018 at 5:48 am)Wololo Wrote: An obscure preacher telling people to pay taxes to Caesar wasn't a threat to Rome, especially in an area hostile to Roman ruleThat;s an example of rehabilitation. It comes from matthew, where "jesus" is made into a god from birth, puts a mans severed ear back on, the jews are stripped of their status as the chosen people, and rome washes it;s hands of the whole mess.
(July 6, 2018 at 12:21 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Why folks on both sides get all bent out of shape over whether a homeless religious wingnut existed or not 2,000 years ago is puzzling to say the least to this atheist. Homeless religious wingnuts exist today, Why can't they exist any other time?They can, do and did. The mythicist position doesn;t assert otherwise. It posits that the character found in the gospels is just that, a character. A narrative vehicle manufactured for theology, not a biography (even a loose one).
Quote:To the atheists I say "Why should we give a rat's posterior?" . After all, we know religious cranks were ten a penny in the first century Levant. Mandaeanism promoted JtB as the true Messiah, so it ain't like one can pretend that religious cranks did not abound in the region.
That I don;t believe in gods is really irrelevant to my interest in the story. The story exists, understanding the nature of that story and how it came to be constructed gives a picture into history and culture and a foundation from which to understand the eventual evolution of a religion which has had an immense impact on humanity.
That;s why we care.
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