(August 7, 2018 at 4:20 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:(August 7, 2018 at 4:16 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Why yes, when you have a bullshit argument, falsely accuse the sane of social Darwinism.No sane society would ever do that .Evolution is a fact and is undisputably how we got here. But that does not make it any less screwed up and awful and certainly not something i wan't civilization to emulate . Natural does imply good .
Excellent point.
"Natural" to the theist is a dream state where Roy Rogers rides off into the sunset with the girl.
"Natural" to science isn't a good vs evil argument, but only an observation that good and bad happen.
Tornados and Hurricans are NATURAL, scientists are not arguing those events are desirable.
Unfortunately things like rape happen. Not because the victim likes it, and not because there is a man in a red leotard with a pitchfork magically manipulate the neurons in the perps brain. Rape unfortunately happens for very mundane, natural reasons, not desirable reasons, but merely because humans can do bad things.
Rape isn't a bow to Satan, or a denial of God. Rape happens because the perp desires control, and while the sex is the outcome, the control is the drug.