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New Trek show...
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RE: New Trek show...
(August 9, 2018 at 5:57 pm)KevinM1 Wrote:
(August 9, 2018 at 4:42 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: To be honest I learned to appreciate Voyager over the years, including Tuvix episode.
It was a goofy episode, with somewhat gay undertone, that you could sit back and chill out watching. There wasn't anything dark about it, no torture, no screaming, they weren't pounding you over the head with some mysteries which you will be hoping they answer in the last episode, but just some science.
Almost all episodes of Voyager and TNG had the same premise and that was that they had encountered some problem which they tried to make to look unsolvable, but then at the end everything comes to status quo.
Especially in Voyager because they were so isolated from the rest that they really had to concentrate on individual characters and their individual problems, they couldn't exactly do as they did in TNG where some character is being visited by an old friend who turns out to be a foe, or being visited by sibling, parent, teacher - I mean they could do it very sparsely.

TNG never had anything like "Tuvix." The closest one was the episode that introduced the Trill, and it was a pretty progressive episode essentially dealing with transgenderism.

The biggest flaw with "Tuvix" was that, IMO, Janeway's final decision was utterly immoral. Tuvix was a new life form. Completely unique. Exactly what Starfleet purports to be about. And, it's not like Tuvok and Neelix were somehow in pain. They were simply merged into something new. A life that begged and pleaded to live.

And she, for all intents and purposes, killed him for no real reason.

I dunno... I just found the entire thing distasteful.

Had it helped Neelix and Tuvok grow as characters it still would have been bad, but not as bad.

The scary part is that Enterprise handled a similar situation much better in the episode where the doc grows a clone of Trip and it turns out that to save Trip, the clone has to die.
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New Trek show... - by The Valkyrie - August 5, 2018 at 5:01 am
RE: New Trek show... - by Aroura - August 5, 2018 at 5:09 am
RE: New Trek show... - by The Valkyrie - August 5, 2018 at 5:22 am
RE: New Trek show... - by Ravenshire - August 5, 2018 at 5:43 am
RE: New Trek show... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 5, 2018 at 6:03 am
RE: New Trek show... - by LastPoet - August 5, 2018 at 6:37 am
RE: New Trek show... - by Anomalocaris - August 5, 2018 at 8:29 am
RE: New Trek show... - by Gawdzilla Sama - August 5, 2018 at 10:48 am
RE: New Trek show... - by Anomalocaris - August 5, 2018 at 11:03 am
RE: New Trek show... - by Gawdzilla Sama - August 5, 2018 at 12:42 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by Anomalocaris - August 5, 2018 at 1:02 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by Gawdzilla Sama - August 5, 2018 at 1:26 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by The Industrial Atheist - August 5, 2018 at 9:19 am
RE: New Trek show... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 5, 2018 at 9:23 am
RE: New Trek show... - by Aroura - August 5, 2018 at 9:30 am
RE: New Trek show... - by Anomalocaris - August 5, 2018 at 9:39 am
RE: New Trek show... - by The Industrial Atheist - August 5, 2018 at 9:42 am
RE: New Trek show... - by Aroura - August 5, 2018 at 9:56 am
RE: New Trek show... - by Pat Mustard - August 5, 2018 at 10:31 am
RE: New Trek show... - by Anomalocaris - August 5, 2018 at 10:46 am
RE: New Trek show... - by Pat Mustard - August 5, 2018 at 4:24 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by The Valkyrie - August 5, 2018 at 6:02 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by Angrboda - August 5, 2018 at 11:23 am
RE: New Trek show... - by Aroura - August 5, 2018 at 11:54 am
RE: New Trek show... - by The Valkyrie - August 5, 2018 at 1:59 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by Crossless2.0 - August 5, 2018 at 2:10 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by The Valkyrie - August 5, 2018 at 2:15 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by Aroura - August 5, 2018 at 3:24 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by Ravenshire - August 5, 2018 at 5:52 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by vulcanlogician - August 5, 2018 at 2:25 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by Gawdzilla Sama - August 5, 2018 at 3:33 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by Angrboda - August 5, 2018 at 3:48 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by I_am_not_mafia - August 6, 2018 at 4:12 am
RE: New Trek show... - by Aroura - August 6, 2018 at 4:25 am
RE: New Trek show... - by I_am_not_mafia - August 6, 2018 at 5:18 am
RE: New Trek show... - by Pat Mustard - August 6, 2018 at 6:07 am
RE: New Trek show... - by I_am_not_mafia - August 6, 2018 at 6:17 am
RE: New Trek show... - by Pat Mustard - August 6, 2018 at 12:36 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by Aroura - August 6, 2018 at 7:04 am
RE: New Trek show... - by Anomalocaris - August 6, 2018 at 9:29 am
RE: New Trek show... - by Lucanus - August 6, 2018 at 6:18 am
RE: New Trek show... - by Silver - August 6, 2018 at 12:40 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by Pat Mustard - August 6, 2018 at 12:43 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by Silver - August 6, 2018 at 12:44 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by Aroura - August 6, 2018 at 12:53 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by vulcanlogician - August 6, 2018 at 1:21 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by KevinM1 - August 7, 2018 at 9:19 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by The Valkyrie - August 7, 2018 at 9:58 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by Pat Mustard - August 8, 2018 at 5:55 am
RE: New Trek show... - by The Valkyrie - August 6, 2018 at 2:04 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by Pat Mustard - August 6, 2018 at 6:15 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by Anomalocaris - August 6, 2018 at 1:56 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by downbeatplumb - August 6, 2018 at 4:10 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by Angrboda - August 6, 2018 at 4:56 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by Ravenshire - August 8, 2018 at 9:22 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by vulcanlogician - August 7, 2018 at 9:27 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by KevinM1 - August 7, 2018 at 9:30 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by AFTT47 - August 7, 2018 at 10:15 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by The Valkyrie - August 7, 2018 at 10:21 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by AFTT47 - August 7, 2018 at 11:15 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by The Valkyrie - August 7, 2018 at 11:30 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by KevinM1 - August 8, 2018 at 12:57 am
RE: New Trek show... - by I_am_not_mafia - August 8, 2018 at 1:45 am
RE: New Trek show... - by Anomalocaris - August 8, 2018 at 2:13 am
RE: New Trek show... - by vulcanlogician - August 8, 2018 at 2:26 am
RE: New Trek show... - by KevinM1 - August 8, 2018 at 1:01 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by AFTT47 - August 7, 2018 at 11:42 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by The Valkyrie - August 7, 2018 at 11:59 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by KevinM1 - August 8, 2018 at 11:39 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by Fake Messiah - August 9, 2018 at 4:42 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by KevinM1 - August 9, 2018 at 5:57 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by Ravenshire - August 10, 2018 at 12:24 am
RE: New Trek show... - by The Valkyrie - August 8, 2018 at 11:58 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by KevinM1 - August 9, 2018 at 2:52 am
RE: New Trek show... - by Jehanne - August 9, 2018 at 3:56 am
RE: New Trek show... - by KevinM1 - August 9, 2018 at 12:57 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by Jehanne - August 9, 2018 at 6:09 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by KevinM1 - August 9, 2018 at 6:21 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by Jehanne - August 9, 2018 at 8:04 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by Anomalocaris - August 9, 2018 at 6:29 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by Kernel Sohcahtoa - August 9, 2018 at 8:28 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by Jehanne - August 9, 2018 at 9:33 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by I_am_not_mafia - August 9, 2018 at 4:11 am
RE: New Trek show... - by Jehanne - August 9, 2018 at 4:39 am
RE: New Trek show... - by Anomalocaris - August 9, 2018 at 8:01 am
RE: New Trek show... - by The Valkyrie - August 9, 2018 at 8:08 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by Anomalocaris - August 9, 2018 at 8:44 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by KevinM1 - August 9, 2018 at 9:47 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by Kernel Sohcahtoa - August 9, 2018 at 11:28 pm
RE: New Trek show... - by vulcanlogician - August 10, 2018 at 12:01 am
RE: New Trek show... - by Whateverist - August 10, 2018 at 12:27 am
RE: New Trek show... - by vulcanlogician - August 10, 2018 at 12:29 am
RE: New Trek show... - by Kernel Sohcahtoa - August 10, 2018 at 1:05 am
RE: New Trek show... - by I_am_not_mafia - August 10, 2018 at 2:09 am
RE: New Trek show... - by vulcanlogician - August 10, 2018 at 2:26 am
RE: New Trek show... - by I_am_not_mafia - August 10, 2018 at 2:59 am
RE: New Trek show... - by Anomalocaris - August 13, 2018 at 2:43 am
RE: New Trek show... - by Aroura - August 13, 2018 at 3:21 am
RE: New Trek show... - by The Valkyrie - August 13, 2018 at 4:33 am
RE: New Trek show... - by Aroura - August 13, 2018 at 5:07 am
RE: New Trek show... - by MysticKnight - August 13, 2018 at 8:27 am

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