...I have a few "friends" that are christians as well. You need to read more carefully newbie. I never said the man was no longer my friend because he got saved, in fact, this is all I wrote regarding our departure and that would imply that we are more than likely on friendly terms:
Well, you said he "was" a good guy, which naturally led me to believe you didn't consider him a good person anymore.
That being said, it is foolishness, and a bit of straw man to imply that we were great friends even before that evening. Regardless of his acceptance of stupidity, we had not spent any time together in years and it may be reasonable to assume that we may not have been very good friends any way.
Also, it is difficult for to be very good friends with stupid people. And christians (self-proclaimed sheep) tend to be stupid people. (I do however know a handful that are reasonably ok)
Christians tend to be as intelligent or as dull as any other group of people. I've met many bright atheists and many that are dumb as rocks. People are people, and they come in all different flavors. While you may consider it stupid to be a Christian, it doesn't mean that intelligent people, even ones more intelligent than yourself, can't be Christians. It's just your opinion.
Were I to see my old friend on the street again, knowing what I know now, I would still certainly engage him with a hello and smile, because above all else (and without your angry god) I am a human being attempting to promote good will among all men. Something your god has NEVER been known to do by the way.
Well, I can say you're not really promoting good will here by saying that most Christians are stupid people. And I fully believe you're capable of doing good. We all have a God given conscience which tells us right from wrong. I have to say though that your claim about God never promoting good will isn't true:
Mark 12:31
The second is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”
Matthew 5:44-45
But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.
Luke 6:27-30 "But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.
To one who strikes you on the cheek, offer the other also, and from one who takes away your cloak do not withhold your tunic either.
Give to everyone who begs from you, and from one who takes away your goods do not demand them back.
And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them.
Matthew 5:41
And if anyone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles.
Well, you said he "was" a good guy, which naturally led me to believe you didn't consider him a good person anymore.
That being said, it is foolishness, and a bit of straw man to imply that we were great friends even before that evening. Regardless of his acceptance of stupidity, we had not spent any time together in years and it may be reasonable to assume that we may not have been very good friends any way.
Also, it is difficult for to be very good friends with stupid people. And christians (self-proclaimed sheep) tend to be stupid people. (I do however know a handful that are reasonably ok)
Christians tend to be as intelligent or as dull as any other group of people. I've met many bright atheists and many that are dumb as rocks. People are people, and they come in all different flavors. While you may consider it stupid to be a Christian, it doesn't mean that intelligent people, even ones more intelligent than yourself, can't be Christians. It's just your opinion.
Were I to see my old friend on the street again, knowing what I know now, I would still certainly engage him with a hello and smile, because above all else (and without your angry god) I am a human being attempting to promote good will among all men. Something your god has NEVER been known to do by the way.
Well, I can say you're not really promoting good will here by saying that most Christians are stupid people. And I fully believe you're capable of doing good. We all have a God given conscience which tells us right from wrong. I have to say though that your claim about God never promoting good will isn't true:
Mark 12:31
The second is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”
Matthew 5:44-45
But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.
Luke 6:27-30 "But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.
To one who strikes you on the cheek, offer the other also, and from one who takes away your cloak do not withhold your tunic either.
Give to everyone who begs from you, and from one who takes away your goods do not demand them back.
And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them.
Matthew 5:41
And if anyone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles.
(September 16, 2011 at 10:54 pm)Cinjin Wrote:(September 16, 2011 at 10:03 pm)lucent Wrote: Presumably, you have friends who don't agree with you on every issue. Why is the man no longer your friend because he doesn't agree with your views on God? Why is he no longer a good man?
I have many friends who are atheist and I love them just the same. If anything, I love them even more now that I am a Christian. So, I would ask why you don't consider this person your friend any longer, when he obviously still cares about you.
...I have a few "friends" that are christians as well. You need to read more carefully newbie. I never said the man was no longer my friend because he got saved, in fact, this is all I wrote regarding our departure and that would imply that we are more than likely on friendly terms:
(September 13, 2011 at 11:40 pm)Cinjin Wrote: At this point, I don't remember exactly where the conversation went, but it was short-lived and we parted ways with a friendly handshake.
That being said, it is foolishness, and a bit of straw man to imply that we were great friends even before that evening. Regardless of his acceptance of stupidity, we had not spent any time together in years and it may be reasonable to assume that we may not have been very good friends any way.
Also, it is difficult for to be very good friends with stupid people. And christians (self-proclaimed sheep) tend to be stupid people. (I do however know a handful that are reasonably ok)
Were I to see my old friend on the street again, knowing what I know now, I would still certainly engage him with a hello and smile, because above all else (and without your angry god) I am a human being attempting to promote good will among all men. Something your god has NEVER been known to do by the way.
