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Former agnostic, now Christian
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RE: Former agnostic, now Christian
That was definitely good enough for me to suspect that reality wasn't as it appeared, however, there was a lot more that happened that day, and next week or so. I am just giving you the gist of it. It got to the point where I had no choice but to throw up my hands and say God was real. You have to remember, I wasn't looking for such revelation..it's not like I wanted to believe God was real..that was the last thing on my mind.


(September 17, 2011 at 1:00 pm)BloodyHeretic Wrote: Hello,

Just to point something out. This:

Quote:I received revelation that this wasn't the case however, when one day I had a spiritual experience that showed me that there is a higher power at work in the world, that some powerful being was working behind the scenes of material reality. I had no choice to conclude at that point that everything I knew was in some way wrong and that God exists.

in combination with this:

Quote:The initial experience was when I was looking at a landscape..it was a large vista which had mountains in the back, a river next to the mountains, a field before that with many trees and lush green grass everywhere, and there were birds and there was a gentle breeze..and as I was standing there admiring it, everything suddenly came into perfect focus..meaning, there was no background or foreground to the scene..I could see everything with the same sharpness and clarity at the same time..it was an impossible perspective, but it also went beyond that..as there was this lushness of life, and also love just radiating from all of this..as if it were all alive..and it was personal..I could feel there was personality in it. It brought me to a place of complete peace and harmony, to the point where I was glowing the whole rest of the day from it.

This is what initially clued me in that there is more going on than appearances would indicate. That was just the beginning though. I really started to learn that there was no such thing as coincidence.

makes you sound like a complete hippy.
You had no choice but to conclude a deity? I mean, really? Come on, don't be frightened to engage your frontal lobes occasionally.


I forgive you, and it wasn't just a beautiful landscape. The scene was supernatural, and impossible from a physical perspective. That was really just the gist of it, as I said above. God let me know without a doubt He is there..otherwise I would I still be agnostic to this day.

(September 17, 2011 at 2:10 pm)bozo Wrote: So Lucent, you looked at a beautiful landscape and the thought cropped up in your head ( revelation you call it ) that oh my god did this!
From such a thought it then became easier for you to ignore the vast amount of evidence in suport of the theory of evolution and instead claim , as do all creationists, " god did it ".
Forgive me ( or not. I really don't care either way ) has it not occured to you yet that you are suffering from god delusion?
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Former agnostic, now Christian - by lucent - September 16, 2011 at 9:24 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by Minimalist - September 16, 2011 at 9:27 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by lucent - September 16, 2011 at 9:38 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by Shell B - September 16, 2011 at 9:38 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by MilesTailsPrower - September 16, 2011 at 11:03 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by lucent - September 16, 2011 at 11:46 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by MilesTailsPrower - September 17, 2011 at 12:04 am
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by Justtristo - September 17, 2011 at 1:04 am
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by lucent - September 17, 2011 at 3:09 am
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by Justtristo - September 17, 2011 at 6:21 am
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by 5thHorseman - September 17, 2011 at 1:23 am
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by lucent - September 17, 2011 at 3:22 am
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by Anomalocaris - September 17, 2011 at 12:19 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by fr0d0 - September 17, 2011 at 2:11 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by Zen Badger - September 19, 2011 at 9:07 am
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by Rayaan - September 17, 2011 at 1:25 am
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by Tiberius - September 17, 2011 at 2:41 am
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by fr0d0 - September 17, 2011 at 3:14 am
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by Faith No More - September 17, 2011 at 6:05 am
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by Welsh cake - September 17, 2011 at 7:36 am
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by KichigaiNeko - September 17, 2011 at 8:21 am
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by frankiej - September 17, 2011 at 8:59 am
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by Epimethean - September 17, 2011 at 9:00 am
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by theVOID - September 17, 2011 at 9:44 am
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by lucent - September 17, 2011 at 2:35 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by frankiej - September 17, 2011 at 2:40 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by lucent - September 17, 2011 at 3:05 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by frankiej - September 17, 2011 at 3:10 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by lucent - September 17, 2011 at 3:18 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by frankiej - September 17, 2011 at 3:21 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by frankiej - September 17, 2011 at 3:23 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by lucent - September 17, 2011 at 3:29 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by BloodyHeretic - September 17, 2011 at 1:00 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by lucent - September 17, 2011 at 2:45 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by frankiej - September 17, 2011 at 2:57 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by lucent - September 17, 2011 at 3:10 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by bozo - September 17, 2011 at 2:10 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by Strongbad - September 17, 2011 at 2:45 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by lucent - September 17, 2011 at 2:56 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by bozo - September 17, 2011 at 2:55 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by BloodyHeretic - September 17, 2011 at 3:01 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by lucent - September 17, 2011 at 3:27 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by frankiej - September 17, 2011 at 3:12 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by Epimethean - September 17, 2011 at 3:16 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by frankiej - September 17, 2011 at 3:16 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by lucent - September 17, 2011 at 3:21 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by BloodyHeretic - September 17, 2011 at 3:27 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by lucent - September 17, 2011 at 3:38 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by Faith No More - September 17, 2011 at 6:49 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by lucent - September 18, 2011 at 5:55 am
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by KichigaiNeko - September 18, 2011 at 5:58 am
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by lucent - September 18, 2011 at 6:46 am
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by frankiej - September 17, 2011 at 3:28 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by frankiej - September 17, 2011 at 3:31 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by Epimethean - September 17, 2011 at 3:56 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by frankiej - September 17, 2011 at 3:59 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by Erinome - September 18, 2011 at 8:51 am
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by Justtristo - September 18, 2011 at 9:05 am
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by Erinome - September 19, 2011 at 2:49 am
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by Strongbad - September 18, 2011 at 12:45 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by lucent - September 18, 2011 at 4:48 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by frankiej - September 18, 2011 at 4:49 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by lucent - September 18, 2011 at 5:16 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by lucent - September 18, 2011 at 4:44 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by frankiej - September 18, 2011 at 4:45 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by CoxRox - September 18, 2011 at 2:39 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by lucent - September 18, 2011 at 5:12 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by frankiej - September 18, 2011 at 5:15 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by lucent - September 18, 2011 at 5:18 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by Cyberman - September 19, 2011 at 5:17 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by lucent - September 19, 2011 at 6:44 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by frankiej - September 18, 2011 at 5:17 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by lucent - September 18, 2011 at 5:22 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by frankiej - September 18, 2011 at 5:23 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by Epimethean - September 18, 2011 at 5:57 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by frankiej - September 18, 2011 at 5:20 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by ElDinero - September 18, 2011 at 6:48 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by KichigaiNeko - September 19, 2011 at 6:13 am
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by Justtristo - September 19, 2011 at 8:44 am
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by ArmchairAtheist - September 19, 2011 at 5:55 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by salty - September 19, 2011 at 5:25 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by ElDinero - September 19, 2011 at 5:46 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by ElDinero - September 19, 2011 at 7:29 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by Cyberman - September 19, 2011 at 8:02 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by lucent - September 19, 2011 at 9:11 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by ElDinero - September 19, 2011 at 8:15 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by Cyberman - September 19, 2011 at 9:54 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by frankiej - September 20, 2011 at 8:34 am
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by cdog - September 19, 2011 at 10:02 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by Epimethean - September 19, 2011 at 10:05 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by Zen Badger - September 20, 2011 at 7:02 am
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by Cyberman - September 20, 2011 at 2:59 pm
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by Epimethean - September 20, 2011 at 8:36 am
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by KichigaiNeko - September 20, 2011 at 8:37 am
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by Epimethean - September 20, 2011 at 8:51 am
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by frankiej - September 20, 2011 at 8:37 am
RE: Former agnostic, now Christian - by KichigaiNeko - September 20, 2011 at 8:44 am

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