RE: The death penalty makes no sense.
August 15, 2018 at 2:15 pm
(This post was last modified: August 15, 2018 at 2:16 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(August 15, 2018 at 2:04 pm)mlmooney89 Wrote: Also to my points.It won't..they will immediately fill their places. They do so on purpose, because of a profit motive..and they even make counties sign contracts explicitly allowing them to do it before they break ground on a prison.
1) I've been in prison visiting someone often. They are overcrowded. I've heard the first hand stories of how crowded. Yes revamping who goes to prison will fix it but killing the murderers will put a dent in it.
Quote:2) Burden on society wasn't about money it was everything in general. Maintaining and caring for the life of someone that has killed in cold blood isn't worth it. Money spent on killing them is. Although I'm not against a single gunshot to the head but hey I'm old fashioned.Worth what? What is "it"..if "it" is not money?
Quote:3) We can argue this point all day long but it is still punishment. Do something wrong you get punished. Kill someone your punishment is death. You are more arguing about how effective of a punishment it is not whether it IS punishment. If they have the thought "I don't want to die" it is punishment.Not all punishment is just, sensible, moral, effective, or financially sound. The death penalty is one of the few things that runs afoul of every one of those categories simultaneously.
Quote:4) I could go on and on about this but an eye for an eye. You kill you get killed. I don't care if it hurts another family because you did that to them by killing someone, it's your own fault not the governments. You caused one family to hurt and mourn the loss of a loved one you caused your own family to do the same. I don't see how any of this is laid at the government's feet.It doesn't have to be..but if the government becomes the executioner any and all problems with the process are unavoidably their responsibility. That makes them our responsibility. It's our government (allegedly, lol
) Quote:Mind you I am talking about real criminals that made a decision to kill. Kids in gangs killing for the gangs, drunk people, accidental deaths, deaths for inheritance, any death that can't be proven... none of those are worthy of the death penalty. THAT is what needs to be fixed. Who we find 'worthy'. Even DNA isn't acceptable proof because families can be similar and people have multiple sets of DNA in rare cases.How, with that list of caveats..could you even decide who the "real criminals" are?
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