Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: July 29, 2025, 5:40 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.
#73
RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.
(August 22, 2018 at 11:51 am)Huggy74 Wrote:
(August 22, 2018 at 10:02 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: Theists will argue, in defense of changing mores with regard to, say, slavery, that there being a source of moral values doesn't necessarily imply that we will have an unfailing ability to determine what those values are.  The former is a question of moral ontology rather than moral epistemology.  That there are varying opinions about what is moral does not imply that there is no such thing as a moral truth.  Both theists and atheists make this point, so your questions are unenlightening.  Moreover, if morality is relative rather than objective, morals may change over time or among different contexts.  That doesn't mean that there isn't a source of morality underlying their determinations.  Perhaps what you mean to say is that atheist morals are arbitrary.  That may be the case, but even if so, they are no less arbitrary than the morals of a theist whose God pulled his or her specific moral rules out of their ass.

Christian moral code:

1 Love God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength
2 Love thy neighbour as thyself.


There is none other commandment greater than these. - Mark 12-31

Do you have a problem with the above?

Do you understand what the word 'arbitrary' even means? Whether I have a problem with either of them is irrelevant to the question of where these morals come from. You asked where atheist morals come from, and I'm asking you where God's morals come from. Where, besides his ass, did God derive the morals he advocates from?
[Image: extraordinarywoo-sig.jpg]
Reply



Messages In This Thread
RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists. - by Angrboda - August 22, 2018 at 3:26 pm
RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists. - by Drich - September 10, 2018 at 12:59 pm
RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists. - by Drich - September 10, 2018 at 12:52 pm
RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists. - by Drich - September 10, 2018 at 11:37 am
RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists. - by Drich - September 14, 2018 at 10:59 am
RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists. - by Drich - September 10, 2018 at 11:47 am
RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists. - by Drich - September 11, 2018 at 11:47 am

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Moral Law LinuxGal 7 1252 November 8, 2023 at 8:15 am
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  German Catholic Priests Abused More Than 3,600 Kids Fake Messiah 17 3313 September 14, 2018 at 5:43 pm
Last Post: Gawdzilla Sama
Sad My mother believes in Jesus more than in me suffering23 56 12058 April 16, 2018 at 3:11 am
Last Post: ignoramus
  Religious people are less intelligent than atheists Bow Before Zeus 186 32461 December 23, 2017 at 10:51 am
Last Post: Cyberman
Big Grin Texax High school students stand up to Atheists: Zero Atheists care Joods 16 4296 October 23, 2017 at 1:55 pm
Last Post: Minimalist
  This Is More Complicated Than I Thought. Minimalist 1 1541 May 19, 2016 at 8:55 am
Last Post: vorlon13
  Serious moral question for theist. dyresand 30 9585 September 1, 2015 at 10:13 am
Last Post: Crossless2.0
  Why is Faith/Belief a Moral Issue? Rhondazvous 120 32273 August 21, 2015 at 11:14 am
Last Post: Rhondazvous
  Recap - A moral question for theists dyresand 39 10706 July 15, 2015 at 4:14 pm
Last Post: Crossless2.0
  A moral and ethical question for theists dyresand 131 27366 July 15, 2015 at 7:54 am
Last Post: ignoramus



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)