RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
August 28, 2018 at 5:02 pm
(This post was last modified: August 28, 2018 at 5:03 pm by Fake Messiah.)
(August 28, 2018 at 3:42 pm)SteveII Wrote: On more nuanced subjects regarding Christianity, I check your posts to see if it is possible someone might think you have a point. That could be the case here, so let me correct that now.
When I say that people go to hell because their sins have not been atoned for--that is the correct/precise/plain/simple reason. You could ask how one gets that atonement--then you would find verses like those above. Jesus is the actual atonement that one needs to have their slates wiped clean.
Yeah I admit you set me up. First you scoffed LFC for claiming that "you need to love god to avoid hell" by saying that you need to accept Jesus to avoid hell - which is the same shit, but since you first accused her of getting it all wrong and then you "corrected" her by agreeing with her you confused me for a moment and you used the opportunity to scoff me how you are so "right", but the reason you usually keep quiet for my replies is because I show what a fraud you are, like one of the last ones was when you insisted that so called early christian writings prove historical Jesus and then I put a link to Richard Carrier's page that ridiculed people like you who think that.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
