(August 29, 2018 at 7:41 am)Khemikal Wrote: Another display of the effectiveness of narrative framing.
Political correctness and social justice aren't far left, they're core issues of the left. Foundational, even - in that they are inextricable from notions of class. That they're framed as being far left by the white supremacist infected mainstream right is a bid to scare the shit out of anxious people with ghost stories and peel away leftists and even more specifically centrists from supporting those initiatives. There's nothing particularly radical in telling folks not to blurt out ethnic slurs on teevee, that this would have consequences..... or to seek a greater equality in a society that attempts to define itself as a nation of equals. As I've commented on many times..if you ask a person their opinion of either issue as they are..rather than as the right has framed them in opposition.....you can expect to find that the same person sees them as unobjectionable, unremarkable, and almost trivially right minded - downright uncontroversial. OFC we want equality, ofc there should be (and are) consequences for racist speech.
There is, otoh, something very radical in the white victimization routine.
I do agree that these discussions are generally fruitless, talking a committed racist out of being a racist is..for the most part, impossible. Racists depend on that frustration and resilience. In the case of people who aren't committed racists (like Benny, I assume), but who have..for a variety of reasons and through a variety of channels, picked up racist talking points (like some sort of terrible osmosis, lol) I like to hold out hope and put in the time. If you can demonstrate the origins of the narrative and it's factual inadequacy*, it's at least conceivable that a person might step back and say "fuck, not gonna fall for that shit again".
I know I did. : shrugs :
*and if or when that fails, teasing them, appealing to any sense they have of how ridiculous and amusing their objections might be. Gotta come at it from all sides, shit's really well dug-in at this point. Any and all of this can fail, can backfire, ofc, but being silent in the face of a creeping ethnostate is to be complicit in it's formation. It's doing the racists work for them...and they know it, that's the goal of normalization.
Dear lord, Khem. I'm simply referring to him shrugging you off as far left and you shrugging him off as alt-right. I just pointed out that reparations aren't an alt-right baby. I'm not getting roped into this.
