Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?

[bennyboy]

No, Benny, I just mean racists, which isn't some sanitized "predicated on race"..but -antipathy- predicated on race.  Is there supposed to be some pc problem with calling trashy people trashy?  What might that be? 

I think either you're living in a bubble, or pretending to be. Are you going to pretend that "redneck" or "trailer park trash" isn't a demographic identity-based derogatory term? How many times have you heard someone say, "Compton projects trash" or "former slave trash"?

It's pretty clear to me that the words "trailer park trash" are a racist and classist term used for poor white people, and that the PC left are for the most part pretty okay with its use. If you deny this is true, then I'm going to be confirmed in my understanding that truth is your enemy, and that the dogma of the Book of Allowable Truths™ allows for no quarrel.

"I'm proud of my white heritage.  White people have achieved many great things, and it makes me feel proud to be white?  I don't like you lumping me in with every historical white asshole who ever lived?"

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Well, this argument has been made in this thread, has it not? That white people who express pride are racist, because they selectively choose not to focus on the harm that white people have done? Are black people who express pride expected also to present a balanced view, and present the harms done by black people? How about Asians? How about Natives?

You can roll eyes, or call it a "white victimhood script" or whatever you want. But if you demand that truth be overlooked for Truth™, with the attempt of championing an entire group of people against another entire group, without reference to individual merit, then it's 100% crystal clear to me: you're in favor a an explicitly racist ideology, and I take issue with that.

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I understand where you're coming from..but in the context of this convo they are.  The still (and forever) unrealized fear of people suffering from white anxiety is that reparations means taking what is rightfully the white mans and giving it to the undeserving black man.   That..somehow, the scales are being (or will be) unfairly tipped against one and in favor of the other.  That the black man can now or will one day be able to stick it to the white man.  

Who has made these arguments, or even implied them, except in the sense of guilt of association of ideas by which you take my dislike of a PC left demographics-based world view and attempt to project onto my dislike of that ideological approach an implicit support for an alt-right demographics-based world view?

All along, I've been saying that I believe in individual merit rather than group demonizations or reparations. I believe in an actual equality, right here, right now, of rights, privileges and responsbilities.

Yes, Benny shrugs me off as a far left radical, but that's due to narrative framing, not due to political correctness or social justice being far left issues - even though I am, coincidentally, a far left radical in ways entirely absent and opposed to any form of leftism in the US (tidily explaining a part of my refusal to participate in a vote between the right and the right-lite, lol).  For my part, I actually don't shrug him off as alt right, I've wasted a few pages of these many telling him that over and over, but he has white anxiety...so it doesn't hit home.  That's been the success story of white supremacist propagandizing - they've spread the disease far beyond the traditionally afflicted.

Please. Your insincere platitudes have been pretty transparent. "I'm willing to believe that Benny is isn't an alt-right racist, he's just carrying the script due to his inability to arrive at his world view on his own."

And I don't even have a problem with the far-left. I support, for example, a welfare state in which people are given, as a constitutional right, enough support to give them a fair chance in life. In American terms, I'd say that is far-left. But there's a difference between that and telling people that differential rights to language and self-expression, due to membership in any demographic, represent a moral right.

I'd say allow all speech-- all of it, as hateful and horrible as it is. Let people rage at it. Let them fight in the fucking streets over it. But let them speak.

OR declare that racism and all forms of prejudice are not acceptable. Wrap the entire population in bubble wrap, and just call everybody "they" from now on.

Oh. And one more thing. I've never told anyone here they can call me Ben or Benny. Either use my tag name, or you can refer to me as Benjamin. As for my personal pronoun of choice-- please refer to me as "specialsnowflakewhowantsaspecialpronoun" and when using the possessive form, stick to "specialsnowflakewhowantsaspecialpronounzer." You'd better do it, or you are an alt-right bigot!