(August 30, 2018 at 1:24 pm)polymath257 Wrote:(August 30, 2018 at 1:16 pm)SteveII Wrote: Hypothetically speaking, would God raising someone from the dead after, say, oh, I don't know, a public crucifixion qualify as a "piece of information that changes the probability that the statement 'God exists' is true in a positive direction?" Asking for a friend.
Let's change this question slightly.
Would writings about such an event many decades after that event, of uncertain authorship[1], from a superstitious society[2], used for political benefit[3], with differing accounts by different authors with the story growing over time[4], be considered enough evidence to say such an event occurred?
If the event happened in public view, was recorded with modern equipment, where the individual in question canbe shown to be dead unquestionably, and then was alive later, then there would be enough evidence to say that we need to investigate this phenomenon further to understand what happened. Would it be evidence for a deity? No.
Well, if you want to move away from my hypothetical, fine.
1. Why do you think the authorship was uncertain? Certainly the people at the time knew who wrote the gospels. Do you think they were left on a doorstep? Was Paul (a well established author) certain that Jesus rose from the dead?
2. Superstitious society? Isn't that question begging? Do you imagine that the people of the NT didn't know the difference between people who survived crucifixion and those that did not?
3. Political benefit? 100% the opposite. Most early church leaders had hard lives with bad endings.
4. Different accounts by different authors is EXACTLY what you want. No evidence of growing over time.
We can skip to the end--you can't win this argument. The most you can say is that there is not enough evidence for YOU to believe. Fine. I don't doubt that--however I do doubt you are even familiar with the contents. What you cannot say is that it is not evidence for other's belief in God. Because in order to do so, you would have to prove it wrong--but that is simply not possible.
Your second paragraph just proves your question begging reasoning you employed from the beginning: miracles don't happen, the NT does not contain miracles so there is no evidence of miracles.