RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
August 30, 2018 at 2:32 pm
(This post was last modified: August 30, 2018 at 2:54 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(August 30, 2018 at 2:19 pm)Aroura Wrote:(August 30, 2018 at 1:31 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: It doesn't answer it lol.
You seem to still be going off the fact that you think God (if He exists) is bad.
And as I stated in the hypothetical, "you find out that God is not the evil monster and tyrant you imagined Him to be if He were to be real."
(Also, I agree with how you defined love)
For what it is worth, I don't think that is what God is like either.
Although I see what you are trying to say, it just doesn't jive. I'm going off a) what it says in the bible and b)the reality of life I see around me. It's not about my imagination. I'm talking about the reality of life as we know it, and his behavior described in his own holy source.
This is going to sound like hyperbole, but it's like saying, you find out Jeffrey Dahmer isn't the evil monster you imagined him to be. It's not imagination. It's documented. It's confessed.
And also, love really is a chemical reaction we experience that is beneficial to our survival. Saying God is love is like saying a butterfly is happiness. It's a really nice metaphor, but it doesn't make any sense in concrete rational terms that you are trying to turn it into.
If you are asking would I accept the love of someone who had actually demonstrated they truly loved me, then yes, I would of course want that and accept that. But really, if you try and tack "god" onto that lable (or alter the definition of God so it fits in there), it just doesn't make sense to me. I suppose that is partly because there are no sensical definitions of God (that I have ever heard), IMO.
I can accept that God is a metaphor for our better natures (see below), anything more literal is just not something that makes any sense to me.
I understand this isn't what you believe. Again, it is a hypothetical. So many times I've had people ask "what if God wanted you to commit mass murder?", "what if you found out God was evil?" (And ironically they get upset when other theists don't answer directly lol)
Anyway, neither one of those 2 scenarios make any logical sense to me because the notion that the one who created us and created this universe is evil, doesn't align with the teachings of Jesus, doesnt align with my observations of the world/people, and neither does it align with Natural Law itself. But I still put that aside, focus on the hypothetical at hand, and answer the question for the person asking. I think that's kind of the point of a hypothetical.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh