(August 30, 2018 at 2:32 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(August 30, 2018 at 2:19 pm)Aroura Wrote: Although I see what you are trying to say, it just doesn't jive. I'm going off a) what it says in the bible and b)the reality of life I see around me. It's not about my imagination. I'm talking about the reality of life as we know it, and his behavior described in his own holy source.
This is going to sound like hyperbole, but it's like saying, you find out Jeffrey Dahmer isn't the evil monster you imagined him to be. It's not imagination. It's documented. It's confessed.
And also, love really is a chemical reaction we experience that is beneficial to our survival. Saying God is love is like saying a butterfly is happiness. It's a really nice metaphor, but it doesn't make any sense in concrete rational terms that you are trying to turn it into.
If you are asking would I accept the love of someone who had actually demonstrated they truly loved me, then yes, I would of course want that and accept that. But really, if you try and tack "god" onto that lable (or alter the definition of God so it fits in there), it just doesn't make sense to me. I suppose that is partly because there are no sensical definitions of God (that I have ever heard), IMO.
I can accept that God is a metaphor for our better natures (see below), anything more literal is just not something that makes any sense to me.
I understand this isn't what you believe. Again, it is a hypothetical. So many times I've had people ask "what if God wanted to commit mass murder?", "what if you found out God was evil?" (And ironically they get upset when other theists don't answer directly lol)
Anyway, neither one of those 2 scenarios make any logical sense to me because the notion that the one who created us and created this universe is evil, doesn't align with the teachings of Jesus, doesnt align with my observations of the world/people, and neither does it align with Natural Law itself. But I still put that aside, focus on the hypothetical at hand, and answer the question for the person asking. I think that's kind of the point of a hypothetical.
I'm sorry I cannot answer what I view as a nonsense question, not just because it isn't what I believe, but because it is nonsense.
Hypothetical: If the sky were made of cheese, and you preferred non dairy creamer, would you enjoy flying? I mean, yours isn't this disconnected, but my point is a person can pose a question that another person cannot answer. Not all hypotheticals are created equal.
I'm not being obstinate, I just don't see how to answer what you are asking. Your question amounts to "if I redefine love to mean this other thing, then would you accept it and still call it love?"
Either it's a trick, like you want people to say yes...but they aren't saying yes to what they think they are; or it makes no sense.
I'm sorry.

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― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead