(August 27, 2018 at 12:21 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Why does god feel compelled to eternally punish only those folks who don’t love him back? Why is that sin the only unforgivable one, and why isn’t it forgivable? I have heard of hell described by Christians as a “self-imposed exile.” If I were to die tomorrow and realize I was wrong, and I begged god for forgiveness but he refused, how could my exile be considered self-imposed? It’s not self-imposed if god is actively preventing me from being with him.
Does god love the folks in hell? If he does, and they are in agony for being separated from him, what logical or moral reason is there for god to keep them ostracized? That sounds like the opposite of a forgiving god. It sounds to me like someone who holds grudges.
Christians, would you do this to your own children? If your child ran away, and came back a month later, filthy and in tears, saying, “mommy/daddy I miss you so much. I’m so alone and afraid. I’m sorry I left; I just want to come home and cuddle with you on the couch,” would you tell them it’s ‘too late’, and shut the door in their face for good? Why or why not?
Why is being loved back the most important thing to god; even more important than how we treat each other during life? Even more important than how his chosen priesthood treat their children?
What if...
You were wrong
Wrong about punishment in Hell
Wrng about the duration
Wrong about the unforgivable sin
wrong about self imposed exile
wrong about being wrong/you are right it is God imposed exile
Wrong about God loving people in Hell
Wrong about everyone being God's Children
Wrong about the priest their roll and wrng about the church?
Seriously nothing you said jives with the bible in any way shape or form. Granted it does jive with a religion or two, but again wo do you worship or seek to worship or even direct these questions to? the God of the bible or the god of man's religion?
1) the bible says hell burns forever. the torment is forever. it was created as a punishment for lucifer to be bound and punished forever. The rest of us are consumed or burned up like fuel for the fire of hell. (read my hell story it is much worse than fire) but it is not forever. everthing the bible says about hell and us= 2nd death
2) The unforgivable sin is blaspheming the Spirit Some say that is not heeding the call. that however was not the example shown by Christ. None of us has ever been in such a situation to have blasphemed the spirit. The pharisees witnessed a miracle of the Holy Spirit a legit working of God and they attributed the work of God to satan. what's more Christ said they knew it to be of God but gave the work to satan.
3)hell is not self imposed it is God mandated. the wage of sin is death. self imposed crap is about free will. the bible says we are slaves and not have a will rather we have been given a singular choice. to serve God or serve satan/sin. You go to Hell because you master/satan was banished to hell.
4)John 3:16 makes it clear God does not love everyone. Granted his love would have been great enough to love the whole world but is reserved to those who believe and follow. everyone else follows their own master to his fate.
5) the whole point of Christian is to remove all obstacles/people between you and God. literally after acts 2:38 the holy Spirit of God/God is literally infused with the people so everyone has the potential of being a prophet level communicator with God. meaning you have a literal opportunity for a direct line. This is why I keep telling you b-holes to A/S/K.. If you do God Himself promises to come down and straighten out your BS if you are humble enough to work with him.
6) again while love is a common thread it is not the reason you go to Hell. Remember there was no ideas of 'free will till like the 6th century AD Jesus said and Paul said we are slaves, and as a slave we have been given the oppertunity to whom we serve. we serve sin or we can live in freedom and serve Christ.
You goto Hell because you die serving sin/satan and that is His fate.
