(September 19, 2011 at 3:14 pm)Carnavon Wrote: Will atheists make it into heaven? All I was saying is that we are all deserving of eternal damnation and no "good works" can change that. We are all imperfect.
If an atheist is convinced in his/her heart of his/her own sinfulness and realise that their only hope of being made right with God is through the blood of Jesus Christ, repent, and make Jesus Lord of their lives, then they will be saved. Based on their lives, they deserve hell - as we all do.
The question remains what you use as guideline on which is "better". Why?
I accept the Bible as the Word of God in which He gives me guidelines for my life. I am going out on a bit of a limb here, but it seems to me that morality cannot be "legislated". It is a state of the heart. The purpose of the law in the Bible (e.g Ten Commandments) is to reveal sin and not to make us holy. Human judgement is very subjective and as the Bible states "the heart is deceitful above all things". You will also know that sometimes even our best actions may be questioned whether it is our own ego's that we want to bolster or is it for the better for the suposed "beneficiary" of our actions.
Have a great day ( here in RSA, it is now night time)
Firstly, I find this self-loathing approach of yours really weird and sad. You're saying that over the course of our natural lives, we will all do things that warrant being tortured for eternity - do you honestly believe that? I agree of course that we all do things we shouldn't, but does the punishment fit the crime? I don't think I've ever done anything bad enough to warrant that. Have you?
You do not use the Bible as your source of morality, no matter what you claim. I am almost certain of it. If you do, then perhaps you would deserve eternal torture.