(August 30, 2018 at 11:03 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:(August 30, 2018 at 10:53 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: What one finds plausible is highly subjective. Personally I don’t think you are going to get anywhere by just calling a large group of people delusional, and that you need to support your claim with more than personal opinions.
But I didn't, RR. I don't even know who brought the word delusional into it. Then the discussion devolved into delusion being defined as a matter of public opinion. Then Alpha Male came in and said that he stands united with the Muslims and Hindus (for a moment) in order to prove a point that theism isn't a delusion, and I then got annoyed.
Let me put it this way. If theists are wrong, and there is no God up there listening to their prayers, giving them a good parking spot at Walmart, and driving grandma's cancer into remission, then one can safely say that theists are experiencing some sort of delusion.
Yes, Paul said, that if Christ was not risen from the dead, then we where a group to be pitied.
I tend to agree with you about people making a big deal about a parking spot suddenly opening up, however I think you should realize that Christians are always looking to God.
As long as you are prefixing your hypothetical with the word “if”, then the reverse would also be true. But now it would seem that we are getting into Pascal’s wager.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man. - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther