(September 1, 2018 at 9:32 am)Khemikal Wrote:(September 1, 2018 at 9:26 am)PRJA93 Wrote: Someone promoting false information makes them misinformed or maybe dishonest, not necessarily racist.A person promoting scientific racism is either a racist..or has absorbed normalizing propaganda. I like to assume the latter until someone either admits to, or convinces me..of the former.
Quote:I think we should all be careful about throwing that term around just like we should all be careful about the information we share with one another. At least if we're in pursuit of more knowledge, which I think most people on this forum, including you and me, are.Right, we should only call racist things racist. Scientific racism is racist, and racists are racist. The normalizing propaganda of white supremacy, is racist, people who sell it..are racists.
The inevitability of black poverty by comparative IQ, is racist. Equally problematic, since we're all seekers of knowledge, is that it's untrue. We know this bny reference to the same studies that racists collectively mine and misappropriate, and even more horrendous..is that those studies show us that segregation and inequality are actually creating the metric, that racists then point to as an excuse for the racism...that has caused segregation and inequality...which expresses itself -as- the metric.
It's tight little knot.
You seem to be misunderstanding things a bit. To think that just because some person believes in an inaccurate piece of information that some racists also believe in makes said person racist is quite presumptive. It probably shows a lack of critical thinking but doesn't necessarily show that someone is racist. But you seem to be dead set on this narrative as you've already gone back and forth with Benny for some time now, as Whateverist pointed out, so I doubt I'll be able to get you to see the fallacious way you're arguing your point.
But yes, I do agree we should call out racists when and where we see them. Racism is an intellectually unsound way of judging people and I have never subscribed to that. Good luck in your ongoing feud with benny, it seems neither of you are going to concede on anything any time soon.
The thing is, I don't really think there's any racism going on here. I think there's a serious lack of communication and possibly some inaccurate information being spread. Though as I've said before I'm not super interested in getting to the bottom of something like IQ in the different races it was just an idea that seemed relevant to the discussion that was happening. I attempted to make a point, the points been made. How you receive the point is not up to me unless I've been unclear in some way. Beyond that I don't have much more to contribute.
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