RE: When is a Religious Belief Delusional?
September 4, 2018 at 12:43 pm
(This post was last modified: September 4, 2018 at 12:49 pm by Neo-Scholastic.)
(September 4, 2018 at 12:23 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: If you are unable to state where on earth you get your moral absolutes, then those clearly are NOT moral absolutes…I ask again. From whence do you garner your moral absolutes? …The question remains. From whence do you glean your moral absolutes? And the fact remains that you are unable to say. Or possibly afraid to say.
This is not a thread about objective morality. This is a thread about delusional beliefs and people who have them...not objective morality. I am not afraid to have that discussion as evidenced by the many threads in which I have done so.
I have been very clear. I believe there are moral facts even if neither I nor anyone else knows exactly what those absolutes are. Is that a delusional belief or is it simply wrong? You haven’t said. I believe that mathematical objects are real, not merely descriptions, a belief I share with a large number of mathematicians. Is that delusional? I believe that the Principle of Non-Contradiction is more than simply a useful construct of the human mind, i.e. that it is real and proscriptive. Is that delusional? I believe there are real objects from which sense data is pulled. No one can actually prove that there are real objects corresponding to subjective experience. Is that delusional?
(September 4, 2018 at 12:41 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: ...I do not have an invisible garage dragon. Of course, you cannot. In your delusion, my invisible garage dragon cannot be proven to not exist. Therefore you must accept it as real. It may seem trivial to you, but that is your argument.
Now you're just acting like a douchebag by parroting New Atheist nonsense. Intentionally (or stupidly, take your pick) conflating 'entities within the physical universe' with 'entities that transcend the physical', is a huge category error. If that is your argument, then in all honesty, I cannot take you seriously.
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