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In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.
RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.
(September 4, 2018 at 4:16 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(September 4, 2018 at 1:31 pm)Drich Wrote: (Fetus=latin for baby)

No, it is not, you ignorant twat.
If I'm an ignorant twat for being right what does being wrong make you?

from Latin fetus (often, incorrectly, foetus) "the bearing or hatching of young, a bringing forth, pregnancy, childbearing, offspring," from suffixed form of PIE root *dhe(i)- "to suck."
In Latin, fetus sometimes was transferred figuratively to the newborn creature itself, or used in a sense of "offspring, brood" (as in Horace's "Germania quos horrida parturit Fetus")

Do I need to define baby for you as well? or are the words and terms the bearing of young pregnancy and childbearing "new born creature" enough? even that should be enough to satisfy intellectual dishonesty as strong as yours. just incase it is not, let us look at the word baby as well because I want your defeat here complete. so that you have no where to go, other than a full retracement and apology from any honest you may have represented and or in an attempt to be a civil/decent human being.

ba·by
ˈbābē/Submit
noun
1.
a very young child, especially one newly or recently born.
new born creature is how it is defined in the latin. any honest person would see these two are the same.

So let hear it! or will you seal your place as nothing more than a flaming troll making noise? Honestly if you do not do right by me here I will just brush you off like another minnie. he doesn't take time to read or respond topically either so maybe 1 out of every 10 posts he directs at me I might read and out of those every 10 i might respond to. if this is where you want to go, then please hold fast to your insane leftist definition of fetus and don't apologise for calling me names for being right


(September 4, 2018 at 2:59 pm)Drich Wrote: but to God none of that matters. just so long as in your heart you do not want this sin.

Yet more ignorance.

The Lord himself affirms: ‘He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.’ (Mk 16:16)
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glob.. so what does one do to cast of sin? they seek atonement how does one seek atonement? They believe and are baptized... now after they believe and are baptized do they stop sinning? no not according to Paul in Romans 6, 7 and chapter 8. So what does one do to enter heaven if one still is bound to sin? one dies to the old self who is a slave to sin and carries on as a new being in Christ. so how does this manifest it self? how does one die to old self and live as a new being if one still sins? in yur heart you must not want the sin you do but what God wants for you
7 You might think I am saying that sin and the law are the same. That is not true. But the law was the only way I could learn what sin means. I would never have known it is wrong to want something that is not mine. But the law said, “You must not want what belongs to someone else.”[a] 8 And sin found a way to use that command and make me want all kinds of things that weren’t mine. So sin came to me because of the command. But without the law, sin has no power. 9 Before I knew the law, I was alive. But when I heard the law’s command, sin began to live, 10 and I died spiritually. The command was meant to bring life, but for me it brought death. 11 Sin found a way to fool me by using the command to make me die.

12 Now the law is holy, and the command is holy and right and good. 13 Does this mean that something that is good brought death to me? No, it was sin that used the good command to bring me death. This shows how terrible sin really is. It can use a good command to produce a result that shows sin at its very worst.

The War Inside Us
14 We know that the law is spiritual, but I am not. I am so human. Sin rules me as if I were its slave. 15 I don’t understand why I act the way I do. I don’t do the good I want to do, and I do the evil I hate. 16 And if I don’t want to do what I do, that means I agree that the law is good. 17 But I am not really the one doing the evil. It is sin living in me that does it. 18 Yes, I know that nothing good lives in me—I mean nothing good lives in the part of me that is not spiritual. I want to do what is good, but I don’t do it. 19 I don’t do the good that I want to do. I do the evil that I don’t want to do. 20 So if I do what I don’t want to do, then I am not really the one doing it. It is the sin living in me that does it.

21 So I have learned this rule: When I want to do good, evil is there with me. 22 In my mind I am happy with God’s law. 23 But I see another law working in my body. That law makes war against the law that my mind accepts. That other law working in my body is the law of sin, and that law makes me its prisoner. 24 What a miserable person I am! Who will save me from this body that brings me death? 25 I thank God for his salvation through Jesus Christ our Lord!

So in my mind I am a slave to God’s law, but in my sinful self I am a slave to the law of sin.

The above is the astole paul talking in context about his very wn struggle with sin. Paul the apstole who wrote 2/3 of the NT admits here being as close to God as one can get in this life is still struggling with sin.

So how does he reconcile it?

he separates himself into two being the old man a slave to sin and the new creature in christ. while the old man sins the new creature must hate sin and turn/repent of it.

That's is why 'morality' means nothing as it is not our ability to be sin free/moral that God is counting but our hearts in relation to what we do, not what was done.

(September 4, 2018 at 5:13 pm)Mathilda Wrote:
(September 4, 2018 at 2:59 pm)Drich Wrote: meaning all of those things you find honorable but miserably fail to live up to... you know like the ability to not murder a baby or the ability not to control yourself sexually

Wow, you're a fucking psycho and the only thing stopping you is religion.

The ability not to murder a baby?

Remember when I kept mentioning to you that magical thing that you lack ... 'empathy' ?

That's what stops normal people from doing these things.

Actually accept pregnancy centers or even a good church or the support of a strong family generally keep mothers from matercide. Mother seeking to kill their babies generally have their empathy turned off. their concerns usually center around self. not married, not ready too young career still in school ect. Some may feel they already have too many kids. rarely is it empathy for the child, and even when it is.. the hardship of raising the disable child is what makes the deciding vote, not the pain the child will endure.

But again this standard of not killing one's children is not a deciding factor to God's righteousness. meaning once you seek atonement whether you have killed a baby or will do in the future God is not judging your righteousness by your actions here unlike how 'morality' works.
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RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists. - by Drich - September 5, 2018 at 10:26 am
RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists. - by Drich - September 10, 2018 at 12:59 pm
RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists. - by Drich - September 10, 2018 at 12:52 pm
RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists. - by Drich - September 10, 2018 at 11:37 am
RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists. - by Drich - September 14, 2018 at 10:59 am
RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists. - by Drich - September 10, 2018 at 11:47 am
RE: In UK atheists considred more moral than theists. - by Drich - September 11, 2018 at 11:47 am

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