In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.

[Drich]

you can literally be this stupid has rage blinded you can you only see red? Look at how far off you were. you were going by the common usage of the word I was using the orginal defination and said so!
In Latin, fetus sometimes was transferred figuratively This means sometimes the word was used figurtivly to the newborn itself... yes you correctly added but this was not the orginal defination... so fucking what! it was sometimes used this way some times.. not only that if you would open your eyes to the defination we BOTH PROVIDED 

 from Latin fetus (often, incorrectly, foetus) "the bearing or hatching of young, a bringing forth, pregnancy, childbearing, offspring," from suffixed form of PIE root  "to suck."



Those word right there jorgie right thur!righ thur! end you little tyrade and demand for anything why? because that you failed, your attempt at a legitmate correction ends with your singular understanding between the latian word and the latin defination and the same latian word and it's repurposed english defination!

You thought fetus:
Dictionary







fe·tus
ˈfēdəs/
noun
noun: fetus; plural noun: fetuses; noun: foetus; plural noun: foetuses

1. an unborn offspring of a mammal, in particular an unborn human baby more than eight weeks after conception.
   synonyms:
   embryo, unborn baby/child
   "an ultrasonic photo of the fetus"
   

You foolishly thought all fetus were unborn... here even in the not sometimes used version:

[/url]the bearing or hatching of young, a bringing forth, pregnancy, childbearing, offspring,The bearing the hatching the bring foruth the off spring what do all of these describe? a baby being born, a female giving birth or newly born, it is not a pre birth situation!

I don't care that you think you had an a ha moment (kinda got suckered there didn't ya, makes you look stupid and embittered cause you know your wrong and can't admit it) that if you just stick to your gun we should forget you where try to correct my useage of the word fetus in the latin means baby, rather than the english defination..

But here's the thing jorgie You were because you thought a fetus was a pre birth organism. I showed you in the latin in fact it is not. it represents a baby/new born.

You were wrong...

And, I....

Was right Again.

When will stupid people stop judging intelligence on trivial things?

if I am stupid because my spelling or grammar, then how much more stupid are you when you fail to understand a simple definition? when you fail to grasp a simple pretext, when we have to go back and fourth for pages because you despite the evidence must assume I am the one in error no matter what is said? when you can't leverage enough independent thought to push your 'thinking' outside the box they put it in at whatever school, or book you favor?

You failed hard here. My efforts don't usually include a spoon feeding of the crow, but since you were so ready to make me eat it I really need to see an effort here jorgie.
an effort that STARTS with an apology

You're a fucking dishonest piece of shit.  The very entry you quoted said that it was not the basic meaning of the Latin word.  Do you not fucking speak English?  What do you think it means to say that something is not the basic meaning of the word?  You said it was the Latin for baby.  That it sometimes was used figuratively to mean a baby does not change the basic definition of the word.  Fetus is Latin for "the bearing, bringing forth, or hatching of young."  That's the common usage of the word in Latin.  And if you can't see that that is different from baby, then you're fucked in the head.  That you actually think you were right just shows what a fucking moron you are.  Please, explain to me what it means to say that something is not the basic meaning of a word.  Go on, explain it.

You even repeated your error:

But here's the thing jorgie You were because you thought a fetus was a pre birth organism. I showed you in the latin in fact it is not. it represents a baby/new born.

But this is about what I expect from you.  Lies and dishonesty.  You misrepresented your source here, and you misrepresented your source in your thread citing scientists predicting a mini-ice-age.  You're a fundamentally dishonest person, in addition to being an ignorant twat.

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then define atonement or define seeking atonement, as it seems we are working with two different definitions..

For me atonement is forgiveness for sin in this application. if you do not want this sin the first thing we are offered is atonement for our sin... so then we must seek atonement if we are to separate ourselves from sin... how do we do that.. go back to the post before this one.

Seeking atonement is in addition to not wanting this sin, so it is not "just" not wanting this sin.  The two are separate things and you can have one without the other.  If I do not want this sin, but I do not believe that Christ dies for my sins, I'm still going to not want this sin, yet I am not going to believe.  Believing requires an additional step so just wanting isn't enough.  If I want to live to be 100, I'll need to exercise and eat right.  Just wanting not to die young is not enough to actually accomplish that feat.  So, no, you're wrong here as well.

https://www.lexilogos.com/english/latin_dictionary.htm


[url=https://www.ultralingua.com/onlinedictionary/dictionary#]fētus ūs

1. heteroclit. abl. plural (fetis)
   
   
   
2. a bringing forth, bearing, dropping, hatching of young (rare butclassical) Abstract
   
   
   
3. of plants, a bearing, producing Poetic
   
   
   
4. young, offspring, progeny, brood Concrete
   
   
   
5. of plants, fruit, produce Poetic
   

http://archives.nd.edu/cgi-bin/wordz.pl?keyword=fetus
fetus

fet.us               N      4 1 NOM S M                
fet.us               N      4 1 VOC S M                
fet.us               N      4 1 GEN S M                
fet.us               N      4 1 NOM P M                
fet.us               N      4 1 VOC P M                
fet.us               N      4 1 ACC P M                
fetus, fetus  N  M   [GXXDK]    NeoLatin  lesser
foetus;
offspring, young;
fet.us               ADJ    1 1 NOM S M POS            
fetus, feta, fetum  ADJ   [XXXCX]  
fertile; pregnant with; full of; having newly brought forth;


English to Latin



fetus, fetus

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[size=undefined]Definitions:[/size]

1. brood/litter
   
2. children (of a parent)
   
3. offspring/young (animals)
   

• Age: In use throughout the ages/unknown
  
• Area: All or none
  
• Geography: All or none
  
• Frequency: Very frequent, in all Elementary Latin books, top 1000+ words
  
• Source: “Oxford Latin Dictionary”, 1982 (OLD)
  

3 sources that say YOU are WRONG! (provided a link to 20 more that say you are wrong as well) You've been wrong from the beginning! you have attacked me from one single position that is you only understood the english usage of a latin word to mean an unborn child, then you try and twist the definition I provided from an ontological source, but here's the "Trump card" I've got 3 dictionaries latin to english that all say the same thing.

1) your singular definition from the english usage of this word, the definition that fuel your self righteous hypocritical need to call me out, was wrong... you were wrong all day long jorgie!

2) while fetus is a catch all it can mean various parts of child birthing process, it can also be used to define a child or baby newly created is the idea. which is how I described the word being used.

3)that's it jorgie, you truly have nothing else to say but your sorry for being a pain in the ass when you don't need be, that you broarder if not constantly cross the flaming line and at best have recently demoted yourself to website troll, nit picking bull shit detail. when you yourself as in this very instance have in fact made huge errors in an effort to try and pick the nt out of my eye.

Frankly jorgie if you keep this up no one will want to play with you. its not the challenge you off don't fool yourself it is the hyprocrisy people/I can not stand being around. You point out a single perceived fault in me but make 10 faults in trying to establish yourself. it's like watching the evening news when they bash the president one week, then the info turn out to be fake news and they move on to the next fake news story hoping something will stick.. it's disgusting to watch someone betray their own intellectual standing just to strike blindly...

You've got to be smart enough to know I don't lead with my strongest material by now. I start off with weak sauce to draw people out, have some back and fourth, and then hammer them home once they blow their load on the weak stuff. however you have found a new dishonest approach to even that. I will make a unsupported statement like the fetus comment, and then when I move to support, you start in with calling me a liar. there is no room for discussion with you. you only want to destroy my character, your mission seems to have shifted in that you only want to destroy the me by twisting what I say. you have little to no concern with the truth.. Example the fetus definition.. you know I start with a claim, then moved to the etymology of the word and then you tried to twist the etymogical use of the word. You had to know I was going to the dictionary next... so why then throw out your own integrity on a etymological description when you know I was going to a primary source next? That the dictionary description would trump anything you could twist around

It makes you look like a stupid whore who does anything for a win, when you play with word or ideas that can be vetted. I don't like kicking in your teeth like this over and over. I don't like doing this to anyone. that is why I stopped with minnie, it's not that I can't t's just not right/fair for him.. you are fast approaching the same limit for me. meaning for your sake I might have to limit my responses to you so that you do not over extend yourself as you did here. (and the last few times we went at it.) I don't like being this... mean I don't like reflecting this much rage and anger back on to you even if you are the source of it all.

I miss debating Alpo someone who was researched and had a direction.. Jorgie is mean and only looks to assassinate the messenger any which way she can, which makes her look like cnn with the president... nothing is true little to none of it has merit, you just mud slinging for the purpose of hoping something sticks. I don't know what happened to you or what I said that lite a fire under your dark 1/2, but i do think about it alot. 

With minnie I know why. if i'm right his whole life =shit. with a shit storm to come. so it is better to try and kill the messenger rather than address the message.

you... who knows.