In UK atheists considred more moral than theists.

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So the process of updating our old information to its current, generally better, understood form is a problem for you? Would you prefer to think the earth is flat, or that heliocentrism is a lie then?

False/obtuse dichotomy.
bobbie this is not an either or situation. the problem lies when one takes a theory based system of learning and makes it his authority/position in order to remove and or replace God. Someone like this would often cite the great faith one must have in God, when an equal expenditure of faith is needed in an ever changing method of learning. but you would never hear one of you say that. you have complete trust in this system of truth, that is ever changing.. which means your truth your facts can not be true, which points to a large volume of faith to maintain something to be true when you know it could change!

For example I can prove to you the world is no more round than it is flat! yet here you are cheerleading that outdated notion as if it were God's truth... yet when I correct you you will shrug it off and say close enough.. (which is what people of faith say when they are wrong.)

I’d imagine it’s around the same as what we currently say, given the vast amounts of sects in Christianity alone. Not to mention how churches have generally gotten with the times and how their interpretation of the Word changes to suit those times for the most part. IE gays are okay now in most churchgoers books.

I was hoping you would take the... "invitation" to push the conversation more into this direction.. So do you think church doctrine has changed to allow gay people? or do you think people have changed? what of those who have not? (I don't live in england or europe haven't seen any gay run churches yet..) well I have seen gay people in church, but 'were not gay yet.'

You would say it take way too much faith to believe the current innervation of your 'god' would be the correct one. or didn't you say that the last innoration of your God was 100% correct? You would loose your minds if our roles were reversed and you were taught to view us that way. and rightfullful so..

There is not TRUTH in something always changing the story.

*emphasis is mine*

You are obviously uncomfortable, if not downright fearful, of not having a complete and solid answer.

bobert that is not true at all. I am pointing out you are trading truth for speculation and best guesses. that when you speak of truth you speak in faith, and ridicule us for having the same faith. As if faith in one is not the same faith in the other. except one is right and the other is admittedly wrong all the time.

The *truth* is Drich, that there’s nearly not a damn thing in this world that’s so black and white as to be simply answered once, and that answer being the end all, be all.

I am sorry you have to live in a world so befuddled with grey you must keep yourself in the dark about thing we can know as truth..

Sometimes we have to work with what we are currently capable of, and sometimes we have to accept that we may never know the extent of how certain things work.

oh, boy if that is not a confession of faith You don't know what one is! Did you know only half the faith you describe here is needed for God to come into your life?!

I’m comfortable with not knowing, and I refuse to delude myself into accepting answers that aspire to being half baked.

content with ignorance.. I somewhat used that earlier, in that most of you do not want a fate any greater than that of your neighbor. that contentment of ignorance is the doom of a lemming. If wisdom and knowledge is offered why not receive it?

but that's the problem isn't it. you care not for the truth only truthieness.. whatever the lemming infront of you says.. that is all that is important but you do not want a fate any different than the guy next to you.

You ever hear of the term “projecting” mate?
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you ever hear an echo before bruh?

Hear's a bit-o-wisdom you don't seem to be fond of... lemmings.. they populate both sides of the of the argument, meaning my side has them and your side has them... here's the thing.. if you can't see any of those lemmings on your side of the argument... it is because you are one!