RE: Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
September 11, 2018 at 6:51 pm
(This post was last modified: September 11, 2018 at 7:11 pm by bennyboy.)
(September 11, 2018 at 5:46 pm)Khemikal Wrote:(September 11, 2018 at 5:42 pm)bennyboy Wrote: "Normalizing language of white supremacy." That's quite the mantra you have there.It's the name of an identifiable set of claims with a known source, known history, and a known demographic corrollary. Read the links. It's just science, you know, facts.
Or are you too much of a pc leftist cuck to handle the Hard Truth?
The problem is that you think an honest discussion of issues of race is "normalizing language of white supremacy."
If honest discussion is that, then I'll do that. You can brand me however you want.
(September 11, 2018 at 5:46 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Or maybe it's the racists, who've successfully re-branded racism in a way that appeals to you..and even fed you that very line? 50/50
You're -still- trying to defend yourself against the notion that you're a racist..and it's still an argument that you're only having with yourself. You'll also find this conversational dynamic in the links you've been given.
I've never tried to defend myself against "the notion that you're a racist," and you know that. It depends what you mean by the word. If you think I see differences among races, and that's racist, then that is correct: I think Asian people are smart, and black people are athletic. If you think that the term involves justification of malice, as an obstacle to providing opportunity, then I think the proposals I've made (and you haven't bothered to make) show that not to be the case.
You can keep deputizing yourself to be the thought police if you want, and I'm not even disputing your positions on racism, especially in the southern states. But I have to say that the way you have argued in this thread is very unlikely to bring any positive result-- if you really care about race issues, you should want to act in a way that will actually improve the facts.
Case in point-- I keep making suggestions about how things might be improved. You keep shooting my proposals down, without suggesting alternatives, and saying "Anyway. . . that won't work because racism." I suggested health and welfare programs as a partial solution to the IQ problem, and you said, "Yeah, but anyway networking."
Okay, so let's say that horrible racists like me are oppressing the black population, who are nobly struggling (and not fucking things up at all) for a fair shake. Fine. . . you have to put them in a position where resistance is not an option. The constitution of the US accords citizens the right to arm themselves and to stand against tyranny. Surely, the deliberate control of a large population of impoverished people by a few rich assholes constitutes tyranny. So pick up a gun, and get yourself heard.
See, if you used all this big language, and you were actually willing to do something about it, then I'd respect you infinitely more than I do right now. If you were writing letters to congress, holding a picket sign, beating the shit out of anyone with a confederate flag on their truck-- literally anything.
That's the conversation I'D like to have-- not deciding who's morally superior or inferior and shouting each other down, but looking at any of the problems, and saying "How might this problem be minimized?"