(September 13, 2018 at 9:14 pm)polymath257 Wrote:(September 13, 2018 at 9:01 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: You seem to be starting to get it, but then are drifting to epistemology. I’m not talking about epistemology. Would you agree that the number 4 is descriptive, and what it describes, is not changed, whether you and I agree or not?
No. In fact, I deny that specifically. The number 4 comes up in several places, even within mathematics and has different meanings in each.
So even within math, the number is NOT objective. And, if anything, it gets worse as you from the abstract realm of math and into the real world.
How is the number 4 different in mathematics? Are you saying that if their are 4 trees in reality, that is subjective? Do you believe in the basic principle; the law of identity?
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