(September 15, 2018 at 11:37 am)Jehanne Wrote:(September 15, 2018 at 10:28 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: ? when did eplipsy turn into "crazy" or -using your words-: "a mess up in the head"?
Aside from the ignorant remark; I take it to be a very strange desperate accusation.
Ancients knew epilepsy and civilizations like Greece even provided ways to control it:
https://www.medicaldaily.com/brain-activ...ow-doctors
So it's so sad for me to see a people who still use the "Mohammed was an epileptic" broken record in discussions. Admit that you have nothing to say against my argument and shut up, but the accusation -after being so hilarious- are turning into a very sad syndrome that you suffer from.
Epilepsy =/= messed up in the head, you're the only one messed up in the head here.
This is, of course, the problem with Internet message boards; context is often lost. If you would have read my earlier posts in this thread, you would have read the following:
Quote:Mohamed with an epileptic child rapist with delusions of grandeur.
That is what I was referring to with respect to "messed up in the head".
I am not going to get into a discussion with you over the treatment of epilepsy in the ancient World; as always, good information can be found here:
Quote:The ancient Greeks had contradictory views of the disease. They thought of epilepsy as a form of spiritual possession, but also associated the condition with genius and the divine. One of the names they gave to it was the sacred disease (ἠ ἱερὰ νόσος).[22][137] Epilepsy appears within Greek mythology: it is associated with the Moon goddesses Selene and Artemis, who afflicted those who upset them. The Greeks thought that important figures such as Julius Caesar and Hercules had the disease.[22] The notable exception to this divine and spiritual view was that of the school of Hippocrates. In the fifth century BC, Hippocrates rejected the idea that the disease was caused by spirits. In his landmark work On the Sacred Disease, he proposed that epilepsy was not divine in origin and instead was a medically treatable problem originating in the brain.[22][134] He accused those of attributing a sacred cause to the disease of spreading ignorance through a belief in superstitious magic.[22] Hippocrates proposed that heredity was important as a cause, described worse outcomes if the disease presents at an early age, and made note of the physical characteristics as well as the social shame associated with it.[22] Instead of referring to it as the sacred disease, he used the term great disease, giving rise to the modern term grand mal, used for tonic–clonic seizures.[22] Despite his work detailing the physical origins of the disease, his view was not accepted at the time.[134] Evil spirits continued to be blamed until at least the 17th century.[134]
Wikipedia -- Epilepsy: History
I read all your posts btw I guarantee you, but I'm very familiar with this accusation towards prophet Mohammed. The criticism is always more like a triad of charges: "child rapist-insane-killer".
Yes I agree a lot that context is lost on message boards; we lose all the details that gestures and sound tone give us, and emoticans are not enough to replace the sign language.
The view of Hippocrates shows that there were opinions other than spirit haunting circulating. Moreover, the charges against Mohammed by his criticizers incliude:
1-insane
2-liar
3-magician
4-warlord
5-epiliptical
6-child rapist
The list above is more of a stream of insults by a mob if you ask me..not an authentic conclusion from the reading of history.
Eventually this man was the starting point of a religion that has more than 1 billion followers, and they're increasing day by day.
