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The Free will Clause
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The Free will Clause
Ok i keep hearing the creationst "free will" clause if you will. Because for some reason "free will" is their answer to anything that happens bad against them. So ok if I'm understanding this right ( never really understood this when I was a thesit) that god gives us free will but sets the people he "loves" up to fail. First of all there is no evidence other than a buch of drunk guy's chilling around writing a book. (and remember there "wine" was sooo much more fermented then anything we have today. so these guys must have been really wasted. But continuing, he fails to let the people he loves know that the earth was not the center of the universe, or the earth was freaking round would have been nice. The idea of modern medicine, electricity, that beliving in him will cause war and kill off his "precious Children". Shit if i was to do that, they be taking my kids away from me. So why not give us this information to begin with and let us succeed instead of fail. don't you think that shit, people are being killed in his name, with the crusades don't you think that "god" would have come down and go hey you fucking idiots. these people done nothing wrong. stop killing them. and for my last point. now i did not live back in the day's of jesus obviously but. alot more people beleived in "god" back then, (even if it was the old testement god) they still believed. But the lack of believe and the "sin" nowdays, where is jesus now. why would he only come back to "take us up to this magical place" and not come back to help us in a very sinful time "according to the bible cause most of the world are not judeo-christians.. only most of america. I beleive this made up free will cop out is just an excuse for creationist to have a peace of mind for all the shit they are fucking up.. in my opinion
Bill Maher: If you believe that the world is going to come to an end - and perhaps any day now - does it not drain one's motivation to improve life on earth while we're here?
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The Free will Clause - by xxxtobymac - September 20, 2011 at 9:13 pm
RE: The Free will Clause - by searchingforanswers - September 20, 2011 at 9:33 pm
RE: The Free will Clause - by xxxtobymac - September 20, 2011 at 9:37 pm
RE: The Free will Clause - by searchingforanswers - September 20, 2011 at 9:39 pm
RE: The Free will Clause - by ElDinero - September 21, 2011 at 5:25 am
RE: The Free will Clause - by KichigaiNeko - September 21, 2011 at 5:32 am
RE: The Free will Clause - by fr0d0 - September 21, 2011 at 2:06 pm
RE: The Free will Clause - by R-e-n-n-a-t - September 21, 2011 at 3:17 pm
RE: The Free will Clause - by fr0d0 - September 21, 2011 at 3:40 pm
RE: The Free will Clause - by The Grand Nudger - September 21, 2011 at 4:26 pm

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