(September 23, 2018 at 9:49 am)mrj Wrote:
(September 18, 2018 at 9:56 pm)chimp3 Wrote: Carrier proposed Jesus as existing between heaven and earth? WTF?
My understanding is that Carrier's position is that the letters of Paul, the earliest written account of Jesus, never define a physical being. If you read Paul's letters (the real ones), you can make the claim that Paul was writing about a supernatural figure that lived a life in the 'space' - specifically the area between heaven and earth. Remember back then, there was earth, and the sky literally was "heaven". From this and other extrapolations (ie, Gospels are not history, real history doesn't mention jesus at all, etc), Jesus probably wan't real at all.
But my question is then, the history of Jesus as documented in the Bible is TOO inconsistent. A truly mythical figure would have a more consistent history, simply because there are no facts to get in the way. if EVERYTHING is made up, why make up inconsistencies? This makes me think that there was perhaps a real person(s) at one time (Yeshua, whatever) that was the basis for the Jesus figure, and his/their history got twisted and turned over time to give us the story we have today.
You could infer that but Carrier did not. He did not propose that Jesus "existed between heaven and earth". He proposes that Jesus is not a historical figure(s) but a pure myth from the onset. I hope you are not being disingenuous.
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