On Hell and Forgiveness

[polymath257]

What is the greatest number in the set of real numbers 0<X<1?

There isn't one. Even when here, while we have a precisely defined meaning for "greater" and "greatest", and a precisely defined range to choose from, there is no answer.

Once you start talking about God being the "most moral being" or whatever other stuff you try to apply to it, you've taken huge steps away in terms of any sort of definition or coherence; to expect an answer to that, let alone one that actually means anything, is fanciful in my opinion.

God is a big imaginary blob of ill-defined concepts. It morphs into whatever the theist wants it to be, depending on the question, or depending on what excuse it needs making on its behalf.

Even better: what is the largest ordered pair (x,y) such that x>=0, y>=0 and x+y<=1?

The largest possible value of x is 1. The largest possible value of y is 1. But there is no point close to having x=1 and y=1 simultaneously.

This is a case where the largest values of both x and y exist but there is simply no way to get both maximized at the same time.

It is amazing that even basic experience with partial orders will decimate this argument for the existence of a deity, but theists keep making the same, bad argument again and again.