Peterson's 12 Rules for Life v2.0-- actual book discussion

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Clinical psychologists worth their salt know this, but Peterson stopped being one of those and became a political provocateur long ago.  Triggering is the goal, not a side effect - took him very nearly 30 years to perfect his routine.  It's how he turns coin.

Hmmm. . . what part of the book are you commenting on right now?  Cuz if you haven't read the book. . . I'd ask you to refrain from discussing the book-- we all reading have one shit-slinging thread.

I'm not even saying (right now) that you're wrong. . . but that's not what we're doing right now.

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He's literally saying women are chaos and men are order, though. He takes it further than some vague symbolism, to some inherent property of actual people. He doesn't say it right away, of course. He sets it up as harmless abstract, and then slinks into the literal as the chapter progresses.

Yeah I've already said that-- he conflates the symbolic Dionysian feminine with males' actual experience of females.  In my opinion, it's probably wrong to do this, but I haven't read the book yet.

So. . . any comment on lobsters?  Cuz I thought it was a funny and quite brilliant analogy-- dominant lobsters going around bullying each other "Who's your daddy?" is a pretty funny anthropomorphism IMO.

Yeah, I was replying to PRJ who doesn't seem to agree

Lobsters... I don't know what I can possibly say about it. You see things in the text that I don't, I'm afraid! He's trying to draw real, useful analogies from lobsters, which all fail in my opinion.