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3 simple points to end the discussion with any atheist
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RE: 3 simple points to end the discussion with any atheist
(September 25, 2018 at 1:43 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: 1-Ask about the design of the universe: this question is very embarrassing to atheists, because the universe is full of signs. From the human body to mathematics, to the value of PI, the universe seems like a pattern designed by the same entity.

2-Open up the topic of time: human life is timed. Literally there is a cosmic clock, and the sun gives the time for earth. Why do the odds stack up in this life?

3-Why do we have consciousness?

Can you demonstrate whether or not G-d needs us to believe in him? If the universe is indeed designed, then we're living in a universe that seems to fill our needs and be completely automated. Seems to me that the things we need (air, food, resources) are evident and abundant. The more obscure like pi, biology, or the formula for a spiral is accessible with hard work, but this is not essential knowledge to have to live in this universe. Then there's G-d. G-d completely obscures himself. Life is in no way dependent on knowing or understanding him and as far as we can tell, he's left us no trail to find him or understand him. Feeling impressed over how many times spirals show up with the exact same formula or how impressed we are at the infinite number of decimal places that follow in pi is not proof of G-d's existence. Subjective feelings of elation when you read your holy book is also not proof; the human species has sworn by the authenticity of too many holy books for that to be considered as evidence.

If we needed G-d, G-d would be very available. If G-d wanted to be found, there would be some evidence that we could find because those are the rules of the universe that, G-d is said to have established; the things you need are evident.

Who knows! Maybe we'll find G-d in a lab. Keep testing, my friend.
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RE: 3 simple points to end the discussion with any atheist - by Aliza - September 25, 2018 at 11:04 am

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