(September 26, 2018 at 9:35 am)polymath257 Wrote:(September 26, 2018 at 9:20 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: As Steve pointed out, you are just talking about how we know what is greater. It isn't about different notions about what is greater than what, but that there is any such notion to begin with. It isn't about finding some thing, where this type of classification is a category error, that doesn't refute the idea. If it is truly a category error, then it just doesn't apply. That you may be unable to determine what is greater, does not follow that their isn't a greater quality.
It seems that you are trying to over complicate things here; to wiggle out of the concept. It doesn't require that we can know what is greater, but that it is appropriate to talk about any attribute as greater than to begin with. It would also appear that you would need to address what is being put forth as greater than or less than, unless you think that the entire concept of greater or lesser than is incoherent.
Yes, I am claiming there is no coherent unified concept of 'greater'. There are many distinct, smaller concepts, but they are inconsistent with each other.
You don't seem to realize that there can be more than one operative concept of 'greater' in a discussion. And that they can give different answers on what is greater and what is lesser.
So if I'm understanding you correctly, you are saying that the concept of greater can be relative. Ok, I could agree with that. In this instance, you are talking about being greater in a different way. This doesn't make for a contradiction, or incoherence. That you are determining what is greater at all, seems to make your argument lesser!
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