(September 28, 2018 at 11:12 am)SteveII Wrote:(September 28, 2018 at 10:37 am)polymath257 Wrote: OK, so you are picking and choosing virtues that can or cannot be used. How do you choose? Why do bravery and respect not apply to God? They *are* virtues, are they not?Why use the word 'virtues'. That is a moral term and the wrong word because it only applies to a very small list of moral subcategories. We are talking about properties of a person. Is that your problem all along?
And once again, even if each virtue you choose has a maximum, there is no reason to think they all have the *same* maximum. In fact, having a common maximum on unrelated orders is very, very rare.
So, again, why do you think that there is a *common* maximum for all these virtues?
To be brave requires one to act in spite of fear. Do you really think God fears anything? Respect requires admiration. Do you think God admires anyone? I think you imagine a thousand moral terms and can't make sense of them all. Don't.
No, that was NOT my problem. In fact, if you are talking all properties of a person, it is very far from being obvious that there is a meaning for 'more or less' even for specific properties.
And the fact that I can imagine a thousand terms is *precisely* why you need to be more specific about *which* ones are being used to demonstrate the existence of a deity. Without more specifics, I cannot know why God cannot fear, or admire. Both bravery and respect seem to be very good qualities. So if God is maximally good, He should have both. The fact that this causes *you* problems is part of my claim that your whole argument is flawed.