(September 28, 2018 at 8:19 pm)SteveII Wrote:(September 28, 2018 at 6:52 pm)Grandizer Wrote: No, the Bible clearly shows that Jesus experienced fear. I'm on my phone now, so can't quote Bible passages, but you should know which ones I'm referring to if you really are a theologically astute Christian.
Looking forward to that reference...
You know exactly what I'm talking about. Don't play dense.
Quote:Quote:And Jesus is God. So Jesus the God experienced fear. Jesus the man and Jesus the God are not two different people according to mainstream Christianity.
Precision in language is so underrated! Jesus is not ONLY God. So when one is describing attributes of God, one is NOT also describing attributes of Jesus. I should not have to point that out to one with a "good understanding of the Christian theology". So, it unless you can produce that passage that says Jesus feared for himself you are wrong on multiple levels. Man...you are efficient!
I sure as hell am efficient!
You want precision in language. Here: If Jesus the man experienced some weakness (such as fear), then Jesus the God (who is the exact same person as Jesus the man) also experienced that weakness. That's the logical implication of such a paradox. Not my problem it doesn't suit your beliefs.
Reminds me somewhat of that debate regarding whether Mary is the mother of God or not. If there's one thing Catholics got it more right than Protestants on, it's that following logically from the doctrine of Christology, Mary is indeed the mother of God (the Son).