Atheists who announce "I'm good without god"

[Angrboda]

The point is that deities are not required for morality. It is possible to have goodness and there be no deities.

In fact, I would suggest that atheists are, in general, much more moral than theists. I've had way too many theists say that they would steal or kill if they didn't believe. That, in my mind, is evil. Evil suppressed, but still evil.

That you are arguing that atheists or theists are more moral, shows my point.

Although if you believe that morality is subjective, it is difficult to even make such a classification at , because morality is based on the subject.  You are not speaking to something external when talking about good or evil but your state of mind or your opinion.  Which may of course be different relative to the subject.  If people really believed that morality was subjective, then such statements are nonsense.

Once again, it's possible to have subjective knowledge of objective facts, even about things that are themselves subjective.