(September 30, 2018 at 6:34 pm)Grandizer Wrote:Yet another example of Steve,s arrogance ah Grand .(September 30, 2018 at 9:38 am)SteveII Wrote: Why would he do such a thing? If only the passage explained it...oh wait:
Apparently having the sins of the entire world about to be put on your shoulders has an effect. Who would have thought!
An effect that involves fear of suffering. You went back a few verses to look for the words you wanted, but how about you try to translate Mark 14:36 in light of your interpretation that it was just sorrow. Was Jesus simply just too sorrowful to want to suffer for humankind?
"Oh, I'm not scared or anything, but it gives me much sorrow to have to suffer for others!"
Yeah, right. How about you check this quote from John Calvin on this passage:
Quote:Christ, amidst fear and sadness, was weak without any taint of sin.
Quote:Well, you failed at showing Jesus showed fear, so isn't this all moot?
That's mainstream Christian teaching, Steve. It's not my personal interpretation. You think you have it all figured out, do you?
If Jesus showed fear, then this means fear and consequently bravery becomes relevant when it comes to God's "great-making" properties. Since your God saw it fit to experience various weaknesses in human flesh, all these weaknesses should become a matter of consideration in deciding what makes for divine greatness. You can no longer argue that your God does not experience fear if he can indeed do so (according to your favorite book).
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.
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