Atheists who announce "I'm good without god"

[polymath257]

I am addressing where our moral sense comes from. yes, we agree that the man is wrong in beating his wife. The question is why do we believe that. And my position is that we are evolved to be a social species with pair bonding. Deities are not required for a moral sense to have evolved.

I’ll ask another way. What reasons or evidence lead you to this claim?    And while your hypothesis may not require a god, it also doesn’t lead to moral realism. Using evolution, as a standard, if a rape produces more offspring, then would that be considered moral?  I don’t believe that whatever tendencies tend to be passed on, by whatever means; is a very strong basis for morality. With this, you could kill all who are not like you, and call it moral.

And for a non-social species, it might well be moral to force sex. But humans are a social species and that means we have certain rules of behavior to maintain the social cohesion. Those rules are *our* morality. We are also an intelligent social species, which means we like to make laws that are generalized and apply to everyone. That is based in a sense of fairness.

But, for example, it might well be moral for a race of intelligent spiders to eat their mates after sex. It is not for us.