(October 2, 2018 at 2:19 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(October 2, 2018 at 2:00 pm)Grandizer Wrote: Great, so answer my questions at the end of the quote (that you conveniently skipped)? Because let's not pretend theism is clear answer. Convince me that God is the best explanation of why beating your wife is really wrong. Or provide some other good reason yourself.Sorry, I must have missed the question mark.
You just needed to read that part to know that I was asking you about something, but you're too busy priding yourself in a morality that is not based on much reasoning and telling me that that's the best thing ever.
Quote:Physical laws can't give you an ought. They are what they are. You combine X and Y and get Z. They cannot tell you, that it ought to give you "A". For this you would need a personal transcendent authority which can say that it ought to be A, even though it is Z. In addition, with God as the moral authority, it is not arbitrary, as morality is based on God's nature, which is unchanging and maximally great.
Dude, you have a mind, and with that mind, you can make decisions and choices. That mind, that supposedly rational mind, of yours is what gets you an ought from is. That "ought" being dependent on such things as the goals you, and/or the community/society you are a part of, are trying to accomplish. If you want to get along with your wife, and you care about her feelings, then rational thinking will suggest to you that it's a pretty good idea not to mess with your wife and harm your relationship with her.
Quote:Their is some debate on if morality is objective. We can't look into a microscope and find morality. However I would argue, that almost no one behaves as if morality is subjective. That we have an innate sense of right and wrong (or good and evil if you will). This is true of the believer and the unbeliever.
And if you are believing that morality is subjective, then you have to deal with the consequences of that view.
http://www.salvomag.com/new/articles/salvo1/koukl.php
Oh, how cute. A link and a couple of statements that don't address what I'm asking you.
Are you going to get to the juicy bits yet? Or you're stalling or what?
Give me a good reason why beating your wife (or your wife beating you) is really wrong?