(October 2, 2018 at 11:20 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: If Jesus didn't suffer, then how is that proof of God's love?Jesus suffered much those days; from the kangaroo court to the cross, but not pain--obviously! Man was put off track by the parabasis(motion against a fixed point or standard) of Adam. NO ONE IS PUNISHED FOR SIN! THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "SIN"! The word translated as "sin", which is hamartia, means: to be off-course, wayward, errant. Adam did that: you didn't!
Man was put off-course because of what Adam did not because of what we dodo! That action of Adam made man subjected to death as a ruler--"And death ruled from Adam until Moses"--when the animal offerings set the things of death aside until the proper ransom payment(translated "reconciliation").
The death of God, which was the price enacted, paid that price on that cross on that day! Done deal we cannot add to or take away from!
Because that paid payment declared man as right: Jesus rose the third day because He had no reason then--to be dead!
All we can do is say "Thank You"! And, since that death declared death to be dysfunctional--we pursue the life of God's promise through seeking, His Faith, His Hope, His Love, His Righteousness to our own glorification which alone glorifies God!
The zOE-life of God's promised joy, given in Scripture, was given us so that we CANNOT screw it up through self direction, religion and hang-ups! See the problem?
The bible is just a book to give us direction, to and in life, so that we do not FIU with stupidity like belief systems, religion and theology!
Unfortunately, the authority, power and money of the "Church" makes them "the blind leading the blind into pits of darkness!" Maybe you have met some of them?
My girlfriend thinks I'm a stalker. Well...she's not my girlfriend "yet".
I discovered a new vitamin that fights cancer. I call it ...B9
I also invented a diet pill. It works great but had to quit taking it because of the side effects. Turns out my penis is larger and my hair grew back. And whoa! If you think my hair is nice!
When does size truly matter? When it's TOO big!
I'm currently working on a new pill I call "Destenze". However...now my shoes don't fit.
I discovered a new vitamin that fights cancer. I call it ...B9
I also invented a diet pill. It works great but had to quit taking it because of the side effects. Turns out my penis is larger and my hair grew back. And whoa! If you think my hair is nice!
When does size truly matter? When it's TOO big!
I'm currently working on a new pill I call "Destenze". However...now my shoes don't fit.