Atheists who announce "I'm good without god"

[polymath257]

And I'm saying that believers are *less* likely to have good morals. Their superstitions get in the way of morality.

Witness all the current debates about gays being given basic rights.

And you have no basis other than what... your own opinion for that?  If morality is subjectiv, then you don’t really have an argument or basis for comparison.

Also, I don’t see hardly anyone saying that same sex attracted people should be denied basic human rights. Which you also can’t really argue with subjective morality. As I said, that most people have an inane sense of objective morality, makes me believe it’s true. In fact it’s difficult not to behave as if morals are objective.

Once again, you aren't listening to what I say.

**The basis for ALL morality is compassion and a sense of fairness.**

When religion goes against that, it becomes immoral. When governments go against that, they become immoral. When societies go against that, they become immoral.

So, does denying gays marriage rights go against those basics? Yes. So it is immoral.

The standard for morality is compassion and fairness. That is subjective to some extent, but not nearly to the extent of trying to figure out what an unknowable deity wants.