(October 4, 2018 at 9:42 am)Grandizer Wrote:(October 3, 2018 at 5:44 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: As I said, that most people have an inane sense of objective morality, makes me believe it’s true. In fact it’s difficult not to behave as if morals are objective.
And yet you apparently behave otherwise. You believe morality stems from God, but that's not objective morality. That's arbitrary "morality" (if you can even call it morality). That's obeying decrees and commandments.
It's clear you have a set of scripted answers to some remarks made by us atheists that you have learned from Sunday school and by watching William Lane Craig debates, but for some reason, you still are unable to address certain arguments made by some of us with regards to divine morality. You are all too happy to criticize objective morality in the absence of your god, but fail to acknowledge the issues with divine morality itself.
You do not seem to be using objective in the same sense that I’m discussing. If where not talking about the same thing (as in what the way the moral argument is meant), then we are having different discussions, and not going to get very far.
We can get to your other topics another time (I’m heading out for vacation tomorrow sorry ). However if we can’t agree on the objective nature of morality it seems pointless, as you don’t have any grounding for complaints really. And I’m sorry, if you don’t like my avoidance of bouncing around to a side topics and focusing on the discussion at hand.
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If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther