RE: Atheists who announce "I'm good without god"
October 4, 2018 at 11:59 am
(This post was last modified: October 4, 2018 at 12:03 pm by Abaddon_ire.)
(October 4, 2018 at 10:52 am)Brian37 Wrote:It's called "intercourse". No religion required.(October 4, 2018 at 10:36 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Agree,but it does start off simple and then one gets to the not so simple. Take, for example, "Thou shalt not kill." Seems simple enough, but then the exceptions start getting lobbed in like the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch.
Home invasion? Shoot the perp. That's moral.
War? Shoot the enemy. That's moral.
Different nation? Genocide them. That's moral.
And so on.
Theists always end up trying and failing to defend their immoral god.
If any written religion in our species history were required for life to create new generations then judging by their claim we cant survive without their holy book, we should have gone extinct a long time ago.
(October 4, 2018 at 10:52 am)Brian37 Wrote: Guess how many people I have murdered in my life? NONE! And I don't need Islam or Hinduism or Jewish or Buddhism either.But murder, paedophilia, genocide, slavery and so forth are moral according to the plethora of holy books. Who would have thunk.
(October 4, 2018 at 10:52 am)Brian37 Wrote: But religion is great at creating tribalism.Funny that.
(October 4, 2018 at 11:19 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I apologize that I don’t have time to switch topics on your whim. If you want to call that a dodge, then so be it. Perhaps we can have the conversation another time. I don’t think that calling it arbitrary is means anything more than calling physics arbitrary and you still have to deal with the consequences of an objective vs subjective morality which you have been avoiding.
It’s also not my view that morality arbitrary.
Yes, you do believe morality is arbitrary. You believe that your deity of choice hands out great steaming ladels of morality based on some arbitrary whim of the moment, and that even if you find it personally immoral, your deity of choice overides your personal morallity.
That alone is an immoral position.