Atheists who announce "I'm good without god"

[RoadRunner79]

I don't think that refusing to shake hands with someone is akin to beating ones wife to death.  And it is wrong and should be condemned; even if the structure of the society allows it.  And by generalizing moral obligations into a category of compassion (which I don't necessarily disagree with; we ought to be compassionate) your not solving the problem, but just pushing it back a little farther.

So you ignore the rest of what I wrote? About the basic moral rules being good for survival? And that is the 'objective' quality that distinguishes them *for humans*? That religion has absolutely no lock on morality; if anything it is *less* moral because it tends to denigrate compassion when it is towards unbelievers? That morality isn't part of the structure of the universe, but 'merely' part of how humans are?

So then survival or more specifically propagating DNA is the basis of morality?    This "just so" story, doesn't tell you what ought to be, but only what was most successful in furthering their genetic line. I don't think that you can equate morality to survival of the fittest, and sometimes that includes the immoral.