(October 5, 2018 at 1:03 pm)Khemikal Wrote:(October 5, 2018 at 12:53 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: That is my point... however we can't really move forward as long as it is maintained, this is just a matter of opinion, or societal approval. We'll just end up back where we started, with them saying that such is subjective and dependent on the person.
Well, much of it -is- a matter of opinion, or societal approval.
You and I have no problem moving forward, though. We've agreed that the notion of an objective morality is a sensible concept.
Perhaps (and we've had discussion before, as I imagine we will again). But it gets confusing carrying on two different conversations at a time in the same thread. I mostly came in, to say that the moral argument is not saying that those who do not believe in God, cannot know or be moral. That's not what the argument is.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man. - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther