Atheists who announce "I'm good without god"

[polymath257]

Well, humans are rule makers and tend to prefer general rules as opposed to lots of special cases. That implies we will prefer those systems, in the long run, based on fairness. We are also a social species, so we tend to prefer systems tending to compassion.

But yes, if you could get everyone to agree on a position, that position becomes moral. Since most people are basically decent, you won't get wife beaters or murderers  being moral based on this.

This is also why morality changes over time.

So then you can’t judge/compare morality, based on a different basis?  You really have no grounding to make moral judgement on another.

Of course I do. But I make those judgements based on the values and viewpoints I was educated with, just like everyone else does. Everyone has 'grounding' to make moral judgements. That is part of being one in a social species.

I don't think moral values need to be objective and eternal to be useful as guiding principles. I think we can learn how to live with each other in more mutually beneficial ways as we learn.