(October 8, 2018 at 1:18 am)Thena323 Wrote: LMFAO....Your vivid imagination, chronic ignorance, "TRAGIC HAPA" logic, and tendency towards hysteria causes you to leap to the most wildly racist and STUPID conclusions. You, as well as most "mainstream" atheists, have no clue as to just how many Black non-believers there actually are or what they're up to.you are making my case for me. as an apologist for black lives matter and an atheist, you are doing what I predicted you would do. If you would have read idk 1/2 of what I said, I wouldn't be able to use everything you said like a puppet.. this will be fun.
If you think belief in your god is the only thing keeping us from going "full savage" on "Whitey" (and his mouthpieces) you are truly an idiot, Drich.
Black atheists are. They exist. In much, much greater numbers than any of you dolts realize.
And though I'd like nothing more than to be able to mortify you by informing you that they're vengeance-driven, utterly devolved madmen with death, destruction, and mayhem on their minds just to watch you melt-down further, the truth is they're not. In actuality, they're a lot like "mainstream" atheist with a few notable differences.
One of them being that most of them don't congregate in spaces that center on atheism. You just won't find many Black atheists cloistered together in online atheist hovels jerking each other off all day babbling non-stop about atheism. There are a few Black atheist forums, but most of them don't get much in the way of continuous traffic. And they don't join up on sites like this in significant numbers because...well, they have eyes. If they lurk long enough on "mainstream" atheist sites like AF they'll inevitably see some deeply unwelcoming, hostile shit and quickly surmise that "mainstream" atheist sites aren't aren't good places for Black atheists to be.
Now, BLM (which is not a terrorist organization, as you seem to believe)
Quote:is one of the spaces, but it is by no stretch of the imagination Black Atheist Central. If you knew half as much as you THINK you do and had your ear to the ground, you'd know that a number of Black atheists actually moved on from BLM some time ago AND that a substantially larger number of Black atheists are well-represented and integrated into various Black lifestyle, political, and general discussion forums. Their numbers and influence have increased to the point that while they may not be the norm, they are considered a norm in a multitude of major Black social media spaces. Because of that, they're getting less negativity and pushback, and are garnering more questions and interest from Black believers; And unlike you, they've got real answers.lol... so a group of black people who are not in league with black lives matter, yet like the church teaches black people to embrace american culture, to put off the idea that black culture and american culture are two different things! to forgive slavery, to not seek reparations to help stomp out the lie of white privilege, and this group of black atheists also teach the morality of white america and tells black people all drugs are bad, that marriage is good, and sex out of wed lock is also bad... Whaaaat???? No you say? your group teaches the opposite? Didn't I already call that? or are you so busy being angry black person you are blindly agreeing with everything I am saying?
Their numbers are greater than AND growing much faster then you or others realize.
I am saying it is the church that keeps both cultures in line with one another it demands a single set of morals/rules to govern both equally. I am saying the church teaches absolute forgiveness/lest your atonement and forgiveness be lost.. to forgive anything black people feel owed by whites. I'm saying the church embraces and teaches the american dream. Wife Then kids House/morage family good job one has to work hard at. honest pay. In contrast to blm's demand that black families be given housing jobs by getting whites fired.. that white america be made to work around the black culture which is whatever anyone wants when they want it so long as their skin is the right shade of brown.
Quote:Do not tell me "No", Drich. I am a Black atheist, and I interact, engage in discussion, and exchange ideas with plenty of these folks online and in real life on almost a daily basis. And while many of them ARE interested in addressing some of the problems presented by White Supremacy as matter of fairness, burning America to the ground and "killing White people" is not on the agenda.None of this is about "kill whitey" moron, It is about embracing and establish black culture apart from an united american culture. Don't be fucking so stupid as to bring hate you have into a conversation where killing whitey had yet to even be uttered jokingly. READ before you speak. Ask a question if you do not understand. I am not arguing a "right/left position" I am speaking from the middle. I am speaking the same stuff MLK jr ask for demanded and himself taught! What floors me is "you people"/people who read this and do not understand Do not recognise the work words and efforts of MLK jr. That you see hate and bigotry in a man you pretend to praise. Which only goes to show how far from quality, people like you have strayed from. Meaning I was shown MLKjr position on the church and america. more specifically it's role in black america and how it is used to define and refine a people would would otherwise be lost to themselves and to soceity. MLKjr used the church as an example of the division in this country and how this country would be healed if it heeded the lesson of the same jesus we worshiped. I started out telling I came from a more than 1/2 black church and can tell you what a glimpse of mlkJr dream was about. Having seen this, and having seen modern black lead social groups outside the church in action
I can promise none of what MLKjr wanted will come from what these organized groups want for themselves.
Quote:Lawful protest and VOTER education, registration and awareness is; All very AMERICAN shit, mind you. Because by and large, Black atheists tend to be very rational, reasonable and remarkably fair-minded people, as most have a decidedly Humanist worldview.But here's the difference. here is the part that is not american at all. "we" not just white but every other nationality in this country mexican white european asians all use those rights to cast off the chains of the nations or states where we once lived so we could come here and live together as one people... Black people are using those right to divide this country so they can live as an independent people not subject to this nations rules or laws. (again so says the black panthers as well as blm.)
You might have a great number of people who do indeed are moderate and think as you do, but it is not an organized effort and like other unorganized effort all it will take is a strike at the heart of what you all believe and you all will be absorbed into other groups.. think MLKjr peaceful protests and nonviolent marches, once he the only real leader was gone.. what was left became militant. Which is why I keep asking for a group well known or as big as blm.. I'm not saying this is the standard right now by any means it is just an example of organized back society.. or go off shore the nation states of sub saharan africa. In essence show me a well organized black community that everyone would want to live in. For example As far as arab nations go I would think most of us would like to live in dubi if we had the means or money. Or Tokyo or seoul for asian countries. maybe one of those free everything danish countries for europe or cuba or puerto rico or a caribbean or cayman island for latino/cuban nations. Show me an example of a welcoming black community where people if they had the money would pay to live.
Quote:Now I won't deny that there's an element among Blacks that IS vehemently anti-white and anti-American...but if you think that's predominantly coming from Black atheists, you're barking up the wrong tree.honestly it is not even about them. I see those guys like the kkk or taliban their will always be extremist in all social groups and those few should not be used to judge everyone else.
Ever heard of Black Liberation Theology
Quote:Your Black Christian brethren are rejecting White Jesus in increasing numbers and substituting their own.hate to break your heart sweet heart, but jesus was a jew, and you are right, which is the problem I out lined and you demonstrated you fit the mold I cast.
And a LOT of them are rejecting ALL things White right along with Him.
How's that for irony?