(October 8, 2018 at 1:49 pm)Brian37 Wrote:(September 30, 2018 at 4:15 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Xtianity was the tool of the slaveholders!
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/30/nyreg...ss&emc=rss
The churches could be replaced by a WalMart and it would still be an improvement!
Um while everyone knows I am no fan of any old mythology, I am also not a fan of over simplifications of a complex species.
Neither religion, or private business are going to end on a planet of 7 billion. But, what can happen if more humans focus on what we have in common, like need of resources and stable lives, and not give religion or wealth monopolies of power, we could provide for more humans and create more stability worldwide.
Point being, sure, in my utopia there would be no religion at all, no greed in humans, in my pragmatic reality though, the only viable thing I can see is promoting anti monopoly concepts so that neither religion or business can exploit or abuse.
It's like you are trying to think for yourself... So I will give you props for saying something you believe in, but it also seems you don't know enough about history to relate back to a time when all the things you said you wanted existed and in what society.In essence you are describing the Roman empire and or current day china. either way those societies in order to bring you the peace and structure you want it only costs your individual freedoms, and thought. no religion, limits on business unless state controlled and own which is ok because it reduces the tax burden (unless business is slow) so the government can pay for all sorts of things like health care, food and housing. but with healthcare it is free up to your yearly limit which is based on the type of job you have. once you money runs out you are literally taken out of the hospital and if no one claims you you go to what amounts to a death camp. as they will not treat you, you are taken to a room to die. Old people's medical allocation are also greatly reduced. food quality varity and portion is also tightly controlled if you are under this government. There is no greed because everything belongs to the government, and you literally are not allowed to have items outside your station, and everything down to the gender and number of your children is regulated. This was true till the minister of war lifted this bann to swell the ranks of the army which is mandatory for everyone growing up to serve a term...
Everything you want... just no personal freedom.
Freedom is sloppy
Freedom allows one man to play video games and live with his mother till she dies and wills him the house, and it allows another man to begin work at 14 and work everyday till he dies and through a series of poor choices dies broke, while another man can take the same path but with better choices and discipline and a big push from God can become wealthy. Why hate the wealth man for working hard all of his life? He does not hate you meaning he does not wish for a world or a government to take away all your games and force you to get a job then take 1/2 of what you make and give it to someone they can't make work...
