Perhaps African Americans Are Finally Catching On

[Athene]

lol... so a group of black people who are not in league with black lives matter,  yet like the church teaches black people to embrace american culture, to put off the idea that black culture and american culture are two different things! to forgive slavery, to not seek reparations to help stomp out the lie of white privilege, and this group of black atheists also teach the morality of white america and tells black people all drugs are bad, that marriage is good, and sex out of wed lock is also bad... Whaaaat???? No you say? your group teaches the opposite? Didn't I already call that? or are you so busy being angry black person you are blindly agreeing with everything I am saying?

I am saying it is the church that keeps both cultures in line with one another it demands a single set of morals/rules to govern both equally. I am saying the church teaches absolute forgiveness/lest your atonement and forgiveness be lost.. to forgive anything black people feel owed by whites. I'm saying the church embraces and teaches the american dream. Wife Then kids House/morage family good job one has to work hard at. honest pay. In contrast to blm's demand that black families be given housing jobs by getting whites fired..  that white america be made to work around the black culture which is whatever anyone wants when they want it so long as their skin is the right shade of brown.

But I didn't say any of the shit you're saying. Those are idiotic leaps and racist bounds that you took on your own.

How else would you explain this notion you have of Black atheists teaching Black folks to unlearn "White morality" and replace it with a drastically different "Black morality", which somehow manages to include doing all of the drugs in this country, and engaging in the out-of-wedlock sex that 90% of ALL adults are ALREADY engaging in? 

You're so fucking stupid, it's unbelievable...LMFAO. 

What I told you was that a number of Black atheists moved on from BLM (I didn't state the reasons, as they vary; just that they moved on) and that the Black atheists in the spaces that I frequent are primarily focused lawful protest and getting out the vote...Not any of the dumb shit you're talking about. You seem to be bothered by those two things and quite anxious to deem them as un-American, despite the fact that they are both are critical for a functional democracy. 

Lol...If such is the case, wouldn't being opposed to citizens exercising their 1st Amendment rights and their right to VOTE mean that YOU'RE the one who's actually being un-American? Let's face it; You are basing a LOT of your thoughts and questions on an authoritarian/theocratic fantasy version of America that only exists in your mind. You're a very confused man.

The Constitution is what demands a set of rules to govern all people equally, Drich. Not the church, or your Bible.

Thena wrote:
Do not tell me "No", Drich. I am a Black atheist, and I interact, engage in discussion, and exchange ideas with plenty of these folks online and in real life on almost a daily basis. And while many of them ARE interested in addressing some of the problems presented by White Supremacy as matter of fairness, burning America to the ground and "killing White people"  is not on the agenda.

 

None of this is about "kill whitey" moron, It is about embracing and establish black culture apart from an united american culture. Don't be fucking so stupid as to bring hate you have into a conversation where killing whitey had yet to even be uttered jokingly.

Well, you were the one who was talking about what Hell would be unleashed on the this great nation if big, scary, Negro bucks start roaming with streets without belief in your magical god, AND you alluded to the amount of ammo you have stashed away in the event that such a nightmare should occur.
Seemed like a reasonable conclusion, lol.

I am not arguing a "right/left position" I am speaking from the middle. I am speaking the same stuff MLK jr ask for demanded and himself taught! What floors me is "you people"/people who read this and do not understand Do not recognise the work words and efforts of MLK jr. That you see hate and bigotry in a man you pretend to praise. Which only goes to show how far from quality, people like you have strayed from. Meaning I was shown MLKjr position on the church and america. more specifically it's role in black america and how it is used to define and refine a people would would otherwise be lost to themselves and to soceity. MLKjr used the church as an example of the division in this country and how this country would be healed if it heeded the lesson of the same jesus we worshiped. I started out telling I came from a more than 1/2 black church and can tell you what a glimpse of mlkJr dream was about. Having seen this, and having seen modern black lead social groups outside the church in action
I can promise none of what MLKjr wanted will come from what these organized groups want for themselves.

Hold on...



Ahem...Pardon me. 
I have to do this every time some racist Bible-thumper tries to guilt Black people into "piping down" by bringing up MLK.

But here's the difference. here is the part that is not american at all. "we" not just white but every other nationality in this country mexican white european asians all use those rights to cast off the chains of the nations or states where we once lived so we could come here and live together as one people... Black people are using those right to divide this country so they can live as an independent people not subject to this nations rules or laws. (again so says the black panthers as well as blm.)

You might have a great number of people who do indeed are moderate and think as you do, but it is not an organized effort and like other unorganized effort all it will take is a strike at the heart of what you all believe and you all will be absorbed into other groups.. think MLKjr peaceful protests and nonviolent marches, once he the only real leader was gone.. what was left became militant. Which is why I keep asking for a group well known or as big as blm.. I'm not saying this is the standard right now by any means it is just an example of organized back society.. or go off shore the nation states of sub saharan africa. In essence show me a well organized black community that everyone would want to live in. For example As far as arab nations go I would think most of us would like to live in dubi if we had the means or money. Or Tokyo or seoul for asian countries. maybe one of those free everything danish countries for europe or cuba or puerto rico or a caribbean or cayman island for latino/cuban nations. Show me an example of a welcoming black community where people if they had the money would pay to live.

First of all, WHY should I accept your ridiculous assertion that Black American atheists will stop behaving as Americans, LOSE their morality, and inexplicably began taking on the identities of Blacks from various and random Black nations from around the globe to start with? Especially when I consider the fact that I know plenty of Black atheists and they ALL act like AMERICANS? 

And given that, why would I play Drich's little game of "Name me a Black community that everyone, including me, a blatant racist, would would want to live in"? 

I know of many wonderfully nice middle-class/upper-middle class Black communities, and could also post links and videos of some of the most affluent Black communities in US, but you'll just dream up some bullshit reason to redfine or reframe your request in an effort to  tell me NONE of them count, because they don't fit your assumptions. 
And you'll dismiss any country I provide as being poor and/or substandard in comparison to one of the richest nations in the world, all while REFUSING to examine the role that Western imperialism and colonialism played in HOW they got to be that way, and then you'll deem ALL of their citizens to be pieces of shit who are the creators of their own failure, even if they're from well-developing nations with emerging economies.

I get it, Drich. You don't like Black people and you can't stand the thought of live around a lot of them.
I'll be sure to inform the Hive that we're not to rent too many lots near your RV/camper, okay? No need for these hijinks.

Thena wrote:
Now I won't deny that there's an element among Blacks that IS vehemently anti-white and anti-American...but if you think that's predominantly coming from Black atheists, you're barking up the wrong tree. 

Ever heard of Black Liberation Theology?

honestly it is not even about them. I see those guys like the kkk or taliban their will always be extremist in all social groups and those few should not be used to judge everyone else.

^highlighted for emphasis